Synod of the Patristic Calendar of the Church of Hellas (GOC-A)

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Re: Synod of the Patristic Calendar of the Church of Hellas (GOC-A)

Postby Justice » Sun 3 September 2017 3:06 am

Thank you for answering all of my questions and concerns I know your probably very busy so again, thank you.
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Re: Synod of the Patristic Calendar of the Church of Hellas (GOC-A)

Postby Bishop_Irineos » Sun 3 September 2017 10:49 pm

Justice wrote:Thank God! like I said Orthodox churches seem to be forgetting this tradition, even the GOC-K, and the cathedral of st Markella has mixed seating and pews.


We try to maintain it as best we can. No pews, just some seating against the walls for those in need of it.

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Re: History of the GOC-A

Postby NotChrysostomYet » Sat 16 September 2017 2:04 pm

HieromonkIrineos wrote:
Justice wrote:
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This is my synod. I am happy to tell you what I know.

Is the GOC-A a Mathewitte or Florinite group?


Florinite


Why then are you not in communion with/part of GOC-K (I think that's the abbreviation) under Metropolitan Demetrios? Seems odd to be part of a different Synod if you believe the same things.

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Re: History of the GOC-A

Postby Justice » Sat 16 September 2017 3:38 pm

NotChrysostomYet wrote:
HieromonkIrineos wrote:
Justice wrote:Is the GOC-A a Mathewitte or Florinite group?


Florinite


Why then are you not in communion with/part of GOC-K (I think that's the abbreviation) under Metropolitan Demetrios? Seems odd to be part of a different Synod if you believe the same things.


Recently the GOC-K joined another group of old calendarists called "The Holy synod in Resistance" (headed by then Metropolitan Cyprian) who had the believe that the New calendar ecumenists and the rest of World Orthodoxy still had grace. Obviously, this was unacceptable to the rest of the Traditional Orthodox until the GOC-K started having numerous dialogues with other Traditional synods from 2012-2014. In 2014, the GOC-K united with the Cyprianites and produced a document on their website that stated the Cyprinites had denounced all of their heretical beliefs. Though, if you go to the Diocese of Etna and Portland website on the HOTCA website, Bishop Auxentios a former Cyprianite, defends Cyprianism and silences anyone who's opposed to it. As for union before the Cyprinite union I don't know.
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Re: History of the GOC-A

Postby Bishop_Irineos » Sat 16 September 2017 7:00 pm

NotChrysostomYet wrote:
HieromonkIrineos wrote:
Justice wrote:Is the GOC-A a Mathewitte or Florinite group?


Florinite


Why then are you not in communion with/part of GOC-K (I think that's the abbreviation) under Metropolitan Demetrios? Seems odd to be part of a different Synod if you believe the same things.


Hello NCY,

First, welcome to the E-Cafe. I am not sure how much you know about Old Calendarist groups and their history. Florinite as I commonly use it denotes the source of apostolic succession more so than any theological position. Indeed, if one were to try to parse of the theology of Mathewites versus Florinites, I think the differences would really be more about ecclesiology than theology (and yes, there is some overlap there). But the World Orthodox patriarchs of Jerusalem and Antioch has gone out of communion over matters of ecclesiology as well, so this is not a GOC specific trait.

The history of the various GOC groups, of all derivations, is one of persecution by the state church. The result is a weakened, disjointed assemblage of bishops separated by matters of administration, personality, and to some extent theology. Things are getting better, slowly, and there are union talks, often informal in nature, on a regular basis. These things will resolve in God's time, not mine. The separation of the GOC bishops is lamentable, and definitely impacts their witness to the faithful. We must pray for the unity of the faith. I know many fine GOC-K priests, some of whom I consider mentors, and would welcome the day we can concelebrate, should the bishops decide this is meet and right. But as Justice mentioned above, there a issues resulting from the last union to be resolved.

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Re: Synod of the Patristic Calendar of the Church of Hellas (GOC-A)

Postby Justice » Sun 17 September 2017 12:22 am

Also the GOC-A is in communion with Metropolitan Rafail of Moscow. I don't believe the GOC-A has ever been in dialogue with Metropolitan John's synod.
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