Challenges. :ohvey: That's the Christian teaching, to challenge everyone with certain proof. So you believe Christ seperated his believers with the Gentiles and the Jews? I don't need to pretend or act like a Theologian to have Faith, or I need to get slandering proof by using the Fathers' writings. Have you noticed here, the majority do not belong to your traditionalist diocese? Except of realizing how much we could do, when our hierarchs could've stopped all these problems, they just keep on fighting and accusing one another. The best example is when the "Genuine" Orthodox Church was founded and Chrysostom was made first hierarch. All of a sudden some of them has some personal issues with eachother and Matthew breaks away and becomes also Archbishop of Athens and of all Greece. Making parallel archdioceses, and more parallel problems. And from those two, they kept on breaking, and we have today in Greece, 6 synods who claim to believe in the same thing, preaching the truth, but do not aknowledge eachother because of their supreme pride of man that they have. You claimed that I was an ecumenist. But what really takes for a person to be called Ecumenist? Have I gone praying with a Heretic, have I paid attention to non-Orthodox? But of course! Traditionalists have Grace and non else does, and they have the Grace to judge. You would be surprised on how Traditionalists are, even at confession they can call you an adulterer or whore. (Many people from this forum can relate to that). Anyways, for what there is, (it doesn't to be an opinion only, it's becoming a fact) everyone, has broken canons, does that make them heretics? Grace this Grace that. Have you actually that New Calendar Church of Greece, has brought out so many Saints? Such as Saint Nicholas Planas, or Saint Philotheus Zervakos? Especially Saint Philotheus, who was a spiritual son of Saint Nectarius, who explained the major differences of the Calendar very clearly, and has taught, that if someone has no faith, what is the need of a Calendar? Are all old Calendarists (From everywhere, MP, ROCOR, Genuine Orthodox churches and JP, SP, GP.. and all the others) holy for using the old calendar? Suddenly if you can find me a second John Maximovitch, in any extreme Traditionalist please don't cease to proove it. I'm sorry to say, Saint John never stated himself on how the Russian Orthodox that did belong to the MP are outside of the Church.
I was reading lately about Peter the Iberian who was a monophysite. Did that mean that what the people of his diocese we're placed out of the church? Of course not, they returned to the church once Bishop Peter died. It's funny so many bishops have opinions, and very little of them say it's dogma. Many judge Saint Augustine is a heretic. but is he really?
