Elder Joseph the Hesychast

drewmeister2 · Post by **drewmeister2** » Sun 23 July 2006 6:52 pm

Is Elder Joseph seen as a saint by Old Calendarists and monks on Mt. Athos?

I ask because I am reading about him, and he seemed to live a very holy life.

Priest Siluan · Post by **Priest Siluan** » Fri 22 December 2006 1:38 pm

I think that he was first with the Old Calendarist but then before he death he went with the New Calendarist.

προσκυνητής · Wed 3 October 2007 1:45 pm

The Elder Joseph was a commemorator of the EP until the day he died, so the Old Calendarists do not consider him a saint.

Starman · Post by **Starman** » Sat 12 April 2008 12:23 am

προσκυνητής wrote:
The Elder Joseph was a commemorator of the EP until the day he died, so the Old Calendarists do not consider him a saint.

All the traditionalists I've ever known do commemorate him as a saint and a holy father. The EP was not as bad then as it is today. Keep that in mind.

προσκυνητής · Sun 13 April 2008 12:45 am

No Old Calendarist synod recognizes him as a saint. And it would be strange if they did, because (according to what was posted on another forum) he was adamantly opposed to the Old Calendarist movement.

Incognito1583 · Post by **Incognito1583** » Fri 18 July 2008 11:48 pm

προσκυνητής wrote:
No Old Calendarist synod recognizes him as a saint. And it would be strange if they did, because (according to what was posted on another forum) he was adamantly opposed to the Old Calendarist movement.

This is news to me. How could God allow an elder to make this kind of mistake. Maybe it's not a mistake? But it is true the EP was not as bad then as it is today.

Incognito1583 · Post by **Incognito1583** » Fri 18 July 2008 11:54 pm

προσκυνητής wrote:
No Old Calendarist synod recognizes him as a saint. And it would be strange if they did, because (according to what was posted on another forum) he was adamantly opposed to the Old Calendarist movement.

It's not a movement. The new calendar is the movement and innovation and schism. But seriously why can't people in Orthodoxy agree? Everyone has an opinion like fundementalist protestantism. It is becoming evident to me that Orthodox lacks a head to bind these people together. Traditionalists argue that tradition is our guide, much like protestants argue Scripture is our guide. But no one can agree on the tradition and no one can agree on the Scripture There is something wrong with this picture.

Seriously, I am really starting to doubt eastern Christendom.