The real holocaust of the 20th century

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Re: The real holocaust of the 20th century

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Nazism developed quite a sophisticated racialist theory that condemned the Jews precisely on racial, not religious grounds.

My theory is that Nazism was a creation of Ashke-nazi Jews, such as the probable scion of the Rothschild clan, Herr Hitler. I don't believe for one second that Hitler cared one whit about any "Aryan race," at least as it was presented for public consumption. Hitler was not particularly tall, nor was he blonde or blue-eyed. By his own standards he didn't exactly fit the Aryan template.

The fanatical Zionist fundamentalists, who are obsessed with the notion of a superior Jewish race, (stemming from Talmudic teachings), become greatly alarmed when they see a rapid increase in Jewish assimilation, as was commonly recognized to be the case in Germany. They do not wish to see this "superior race" diluted through intermarriage with the "goyim," so naturally, the only viable remedy to this seeming problem is to keep the Jews and non-Jews apart. However, these Zionists are crafty, and recognize that they cannot just openly go about proclaiming their clan to being superior to the nations. This would draw down condemnation upon themselves as being racists, which in fact they truly are. Even if they did, there was no guarantee that the assimilationist-minded Jews would pay them any heed. So it seems that they hatched up a plan, which they found to be much more suitable to their aims. Hitler, in all likelihood a crypto-Jew, and no-doubt financed by the international German-Jewish banking syndicate, was slated to front their operation. The plan was devised to make the German people out to be the racists, rather than expose this ideology of the fanatic Zionists. The results achieved would be the same in either case. So-called "ethnic Germans" would be banned from marrying Jews, ostensibly based on the pretense that the Jews were a filthy and inferior race, when in fact the Zionists considered it to be the other way around. All the anti-Jewish rhetoric preached by Hitler and his minions, whether based in truth or not, further served to deepen the enmity between Jews and their non-Jewish countrymen, which is exactly what the Zionists sought. Of course another goal of the Zionists was to induce Jews to want to pack up and leave Germany, in order to colonize settlements in Palestine. The Zionists are always seeking to drive Jews into Palestine, even forcibly against their better instincts, in an effort to recreate the ancient Israelite kingdom, culminating in the enthronement of their World Autocrat. Most assimilationist-minded Jews do not want to pack up and leave for the dry deserts of Palestine, surrounded by hostile Arab neighbors, when they can live in luxury, comfort and ease in places like Hollywood or Manhattan. That is why you don't see Steven Spielberg or Barbara Streisand on the first plane to Tel Aviv. The Zionists recognized that most Jews require some motivation before they will pack up and leave. The history lesson of the so-called "Holocaust," once again dictated to the world by the Zionist masters of media, was to first prepare non-Jews for the concept that the pitifully persecuted Jews deserved a predominately Jewish homeland of their own, in that they would always have a safe-haven, free from any threatenings that come from living amongst larger, non-Jewish populations. The history lesson that the Zionists dictated for the Jews was this: if ever there comes a time where anti-Jewish sentiment breaks out and you feel threatened, immediately pack up and head for Palestine, or you might be rounded up, gassed, and cremated. The fanatic Zionists find the so-called "antisemitism" which they created to be a useful tool in their arsenal, when it comes to motivating Jews who are quite content where they currently reside, to head for Palestine, so the nation of Israel can be gathered and reconstituted, in order to receive him who shall come in his own name. (cf. John 5.43)

Of course there are a whole plethora of other reasons to stir up so-called "antisemitism," and I trust everyone can discern the other benefits the Jews believe they accrue from fostering it.

"Anti-Semites will become our surest friends, anti-Semitic countries our allies.” (Theodore Herzl)

"The way I see it, the fact of the Jews' racial peculiarity will necessarily influence their social relations with non-Jews. The conclusions which—in my opinion—the Jews should draw is to become more aware of their peculiarity in their social way of life and to recognize their own cultural contributions. First of all, they would have to show a certain noble reservedness and not be so eager to mix socially—of which others want little or nothing. On the other hand, anti-Semitism in Germany also has consequences that, from a Jewish point of view, should be welcomed. I believe German Jewry owes its continued existence to anti-Semitism." (Albert Einstein)

"Anti-Semitism will be a psychological phenomenon as long as Jews come in contact with non-Jews—what harm can there be in that? Perhaps it is due to anti-Semitism that we survive as a race: at least that is what I believe." (Albert Einstein)

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Re: The real holocaust of the 20th century

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Well, I'll leave you to your own theories about the origin of the modern Jewish race, National Socialism and whatever. But what I would like to see is some patristic support for your claim that the Jews are not carnal descendants of Abraham. All the sources you've quoted so far clearly believe that they are. Indeed, that is precisely the point they are all making: although the Jews are related to Abraham by blood, they are not related to him in spirit, because they have abandoned the faith of Abraham, whereas we Gentiles, although not related to Abraham by blood, ARE related to him in spirit, because we have accepted the faith of Abraham.

I don't know where you get the idea that the term Ashkenazi means that group of Jews are descended from Ashkenaz. No one has ever tried to argue this. Clearly you did not read the very wikipedia article that you linked to. They call themselves Ashkenazi with reference to their geographical origins in Germany, which they called Ashkenaz. Obviously they don't believe that was their original home; it means that, before living in Poland and Lithuania, they lived in Germany and Western Europe, and before that, ultimately, Palestine. If you choose to believe that in fact they are not of Semitic extraction, that is a completely different issue. You can't use the term Ashkenazi as EVIDENCE of their non-Semitic origin. The name is not evidence of any kind of genealogical origin. You may wish to claim that their former German residence is evidence for non-Semitic German descent, but again, that is totally separate.

This is from the wikipedia article and should settle the matter:

Usage of the name

In reference to the Jewish peoples of Northern Europe and particularly the Rhineland, the word Ashkenazi is often found in medieval rabbinic literature. References to Ashkenaz in Yosippon and Hasdai ibn Shaprut's letter to the king of the Khazars would date the term as far back as the tenth century, as would also Saadia Gaon's commentary on Daniel 7:8.

The word Ashkenaz first appears in the genealogy in the Tanakh (Genesis 10) as a son of Gomer and grandson of Japheth. It is thought that the name originally applied to the Scythians (Ishkuz), who were called Ashkuza in Assyrian inscriptions, and lake Ascanius and the region Ascania in Anatolia derive their names from this group.

Ashkenaz in later Hebrew tradition became identified with the peoples of Germany, and in particular to the area along the Rhine.

Ashkenaz and the Ashkenazi contrast to the land of Knaan, a geo-ethnological term denoting the Jewish populations living east of the Elbe river as opposed to the Ashkenazi Jews living to the West of it, and the Sephardic Jews of Iberian Peninsula.[28]

The autonym was usually Yidn, however.

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