HOCNA-GOC AB Makarios intercommunion in Spring 2013

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Re: GOC-AB Makarios and HOCNA in full communion

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Suaiden wrote:

The name-worshippers control the Makarios synod.

Simple.

Are you talking about (The Russian) Bishop Nektarios of Olympus?

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Suaiden wrote:

The name-worshippers control the Makarios synod.

Simple.

Are you sure, Father Joseph? I had heard some good things about this synod.
But, I guess it makes sense :cry:

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Suaiden wrote:

The name-worshippers control the Makarios synod.

Simple.

Such assertion should be proven with factual elements.

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I believe there is some info on NFTU.

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Re: HOCNA-GOC AB Makarios intercommunion in Spring 2013

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frphoti wrote:

I believe there is some info on NFTU.

Yes, there is. However, sources remain anonymous.

The HOCNA-Makarios Synod Union: A Name-Worshipper Gathering?

One of our sources, remaining anonymous, has indicated that between private correspondence between Bp Philaret of France and our source, the name-worshipping heresy was not only accepted formally by some of the bishops of the Makarios Synod as Orthodox teaching, but that they may have known in advance about the HOCNA leadership’s acceptance of the name-worshipping heresy in advance of the recent schism in HOCNA where the majority of the jurisdiction joined the GOC-Kallinikos.

Further, we have learned that one of the Makarios Synod’s younger Bishops, Bp Nectarios (Yashunsky), was in fact an Archimandrite who wrote a monograph about name-worshipping before being consecrated by the Makarios Synod in 2007.

For the complete NFTU story, please visit: http://nftu.net/hocna-makarios-synod-un ... ox+News%29

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Re: HOCNA-GOC AB Makarios intercommunion in Spring 2013

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Several members have asked for a history of the Makarios Synod.
Father Panagiotes did some research and his results can be found below.

The following has been posted by Father Panagiotes (HOTCA-Toronto/GOC) at OrthodoxInfo and sent by email to me:

SISTER CHURCHES IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE

In 1995, a rebellious faction of six bishops formed within the synod of the Genuine Orthodox Christians of Greece, under Archbishop Chrysostomos and separated itself over what they claimed to be canonical infractions. These false charges were brought forth in order to avoid the impending trial of Metropolitan Euthymios (Orphanos) of Thessaloniki, who had been charged with moral infractions. The other charge had to do with the election of the notorious Bishop Vikentios (Malamatenios) of Avlona (fornerly of Astoria, N. Y.) as Metropolitan of Piraeus.

The six Hierarchs who left were Ephthimios, of Thessaloniki, Kallinikos of Lamia, Stefanos of Chios, Ioustinos of Evripos, Vikentios of Avlona and Paisios of America. The group was headed by Metropolitan Kallinikos of Lamia and was commonly known as the Lamian Synod .

The six hierarchs were defrocked on July 12/25, 1995 because of their schism from the Holy Synod. Euthimios of Thessaloniki was found guilty of immoral acts on 13/26 July, 1995 and was ordered to be confined to the Monastery of St. Iakovos, the Brother of the Lord and not to receive Holy Communion for 15 years.

By early 1996, the movement had fragmented into three groups. The first group, Stefanos of Chios and Ioustinos of Evripos, repented their schismatic actions and were reconciled with the Holy Synod of Archbishop Chrysostomos. The second group, Paisios of America and Vikentios of Avlona, renounced the Faith and submitted to the Ecumenical Patiarchate. Later they became fugitives from American justice. The third group was made up of Euthimios, of Thessaloniki, and Kallinikos of Lamia.

in 1996, Kallinikos of Lamia and Euthymios of Thessaloniki proceeded to ordain five titular bishops in an attempt to create a new synod. In 2004, this synod finally decided to elect a primate, and elected Makarios (Kavakides) of Athens. A good deal of their membership was then lost, as many realized what really motivated the schism and returned to the Holy Synod of the Genuine Orthodox Christians of Greece..

In 2007 the Lamian Synod ordained Archimandrite Nectarios (Yashunsky) from St. Petersburg as Bishop of Olympus. He served as the administrator of two parishes in Russia. When these two parishes collapsed Bishop Nektarios returned to Greece.

Bishop Nektarios, as an Archimandrite, introduced the Lamians to the Name-Worshipping Heresy. His article in defence of Name-Worshipping in Greek, A Brief Explanation of Onomatodoxy, can be found on HOCNA's web site that is dedicated to the heresy of Name-Worship, http://www.thewonderfulname.info/2012_1 ... chive.html The other Greek article in defense of this heresy, The Name of God as A Sign Spoken Against appears to be written by Archbishop Makarios. Neither of these two articles appear on any of the Lamian sites and at least two Lamian hierarchs and many of their clergy and laity are opposed to the teachings of these heretics. Nectarios Yashunsky's article can also be found on Gregory Lourie's site which also includes and icon of the heretic, Anthony Bulatovic, founder of the Name-Worshippers. http://www.pravoslav.de/imiaslavie/index.htm

Archbishop Makarios has also deviated from the Faith by allying himself with the renovationist, New-Calendar Archimandrite, Fr. Nektarios Moulatsiotis. Moulatsiotis became world famous in 2002 when he founded the Freemonks. This was a rock band named Paparokades.

http://homelands.org/worlds/freemonks.html

http://www.freemonks.gr/index.php?page=com&lang=1&id=81

By 2005 the monks abandoned Moulatsiotis and monasticism. Moulatsiotis' dedication to the struggle against Digital Identity Cards then became focused on organizing demonstrations against Digital Identity Cards. He was joined by Archbishop Makarios in this endeavour. At one of Moulatsiotis' demonstrations, Archbishop Makarios proclaimed Let us be united in one fist, New-Calanderists and Old-Calanderists...today we will not ask if you are with the new or old calendar but rather if you are with Christ. Archbishop Makarios also joined Moulatsiotis in rallies sponsored by the political group ELKIS

Many of Archbishop Makarios' unilateral activities are not approved of by the other hierarchs, clergy and lay people of the Lamian Synod. The so-called STATEMENT OF EUCHARISTIC COMMUNION has been hidden from those in Greece. Clergy and people in Greece realize that the term Eucharistic Communion is another way of saying Eucharistic Hospitality. This heresy was expounded by HOCNA when they justified giving Holy Communion to the Name-Worshipper, Gregory Lourie. This heresy was expressed with the words: desire to foster the oneness that must exist among all Orthodox Christians in the Holy Body and Blood of our Saviour.

HOCNA and the Lamians are truly sister churches in more ways than one.

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+Fr. Panagiotes

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Re: A complete listing: True/Traditional Orthodox Christians

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jgress wrote:

Since HOCNA has espoused the heresy of Name-Worshiping, ECafe does not consider it True Orthodox and that is why we don't include them on our list.

Slander and gossip aside, I’m not going to engage in another polemic on “Name-worshipping”. And as I considered this a neutral forum, and purely out of respect and brotherly love, I certainly wouldn’t comment on the other listings.

What I will say is you have listed the GOC under Archbishop Makarios. HOCNA is in full communion with this GOC synod. This is not a contradiction?

Mod Note: In order to keep threads on topic, this post has been moved from A Complete Listing: True/Traditional Orthodox Christians into Crisis in GOC of Greece under Arch. Makarios.

Upon further consideration, this post has been moved into the Intra-TOC Polemics Forum: HOCNA-GOC AB Makarios intercommunion in Spring 2013.

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