SHOCKING NEWS! Former ROCOR bishop forsakes...

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To recap,

Met. Daniel was consecrated a bishop by Met. John and others in 2011, not 2001. Before 2010, he was with the MP and served as an Archimandrite, as photographic evidence shows.

Recently, this same Met. Daniel then left Met. Raphael's Synod and joined the Milan Synod, claiming to have been consecrated a Bishop in 2001, yet no proof of this earlier consecration exists.

When Met. Daniel joined the Milan Synod, he gave false unsubstantiated reasons for leaving Met. Raphael's Synod: (1) that Met. Raphael was involved in the occult; and (2) that Met. Raphael claims to be the Patriarch of Moscow.

(1) Met. Raphael believes in the healing power of Christ and in natural alternative healing methods, but this is not any form of occultism. Alternative healing methods include the use of herbs and the oil from olives, which many monks grow in their gardens. With the dangerous properties of fluoride and bromide ions that are added to the majority of pharmaceuticals, and with the expense of these dangerous pharmaceuticals which have deadly side effects, is it any wonder that monks would try to find natural means of healing along with prayer and holy water? BTW, all pharmaceuticals must have a lethal limit in order to qualify as FDA approved. On the contrary, it would take a lot of water to die from the over indulgence of H2O. Furthermore, has anyone died from too many prayers?

(2) Any claims of being the Patriarch of Moscow would certainly put Met. Raphael at risk of being exterminated by the political forces in Russia who support the current MP. Yet, the True Orthodox believe that the MP has vacated his position, just like the EP, because both endorse ecumenism.

Is the above correct?

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That IS interesting about the natural healing methods of this Met Raphael.
I'd like to hear MORE about that.

It's true, "occult" could be a label tossed easily at almost anyone because it so VAGUE and a catch-all.

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Why does Metropolitan Raphael dress in Patriarchal vestments, though? Nobody has been able to explain this to me.

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Sdcn.Ephrem wrote:

Why does Metropolitan Raphael dress in Patriarchal vestments, though? Nobody has been able to explain this to me.

Met. Raphael does not get this preferential treatment accorded the World Orthodox MP:

http://www.portal-credo.ru/site/?act=news&id=104696

Here is a video of traffic that comes to a full stop to allow the World Orthodox MP to get to places in Russia safe and sound.

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Maria wrote:

Met. Raphael does not get this preferential treatment accorded the World Orthodox MP:

http://www.portal-credo.ru/site/?act=news&id=104696

Here is a video of traffic that comes to a full stop to allow the World Orthodox MP to get to places in Russia safe and sound.

Yes, but he dresses like a Patriarch. Here are some pictures of Metropolitan Raphael in Patriarchal street clothes (which, I understand, is all he wears):
http://ipckatakomb.ru/UserFiles/image/i ... 0162-2.JPG
http://www.portal-credo.ru/images/lib/2006/1723.jpg

I would like to know why he does this, since he does not even consider himself a Patriarch, but calls himself "Metropolitan Raphael". Before the 1917 council, when Moscow became a Patriarchal see, it was simply a Metropolis, and the Metropolitan wore the white Klobuk like all Russian Metropolitans.

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EDIT: Apparently, the video above was not the car containing the MP, but that of the Prime Minister. :roll:

Regarding the video above purported to be that of the MP:

[paradosis] Patriarch Kirill and his guard -

After making inquiries with some friends in Moscow I found out that the cameraman of this video is giving false information. It is not the car of the Patriarch but of the Prime Minister Medvedev. This kind of protection is used only for Putin and Medvedev.
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I found this news on the web seems translated from Russian - what could be true?
This news is reliable?

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Russian_True_Or ... phaelites)

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