Is Barak Obama the Antichrist?

[Ian]

If we are to believe these catacomb sources, Antichrist himself will be a Russian-born Jew and will reign from Jerusalem, in the rebuilt Temple. This is not at all hard for me to believe, given that there are so many Russian-born Jews living in Israel already. But before this happens, several other events will occur. First, Soviet power, which still reigns in Russia through KGB agent Putin and the Soviet Moscow Patriarchate, will be overthrown in a great war with China. Again, not at all an impossible scenario looking at the current situation. Then an Orthodox tsar will take power in Russia and oversee the spread of the True Church throughout the world. I admit, this seems hard to believe now, but the prophecy is clear and 'nothing is impossible with God'. After this, the Antichrist will appear.

Many prophecies are laden with "if" conditions, implicit if not explicit. If we get Biblical scale disasters out of the Apocalypse/Revelation of St. John, I think we can assume that we have a reigning Antichrist, regardless of whether we have an Orthodox Czar.

(And V. Moss wouldn't like the interpretation, but Soviet power could have collapsed because of the Sino-Russian war, which enabled the USA to move China more into its camp, which changed the balance of power and eventually brought down the Soviet Union.)

Interestingly, Obama's mother met his father in a Russian language class. The mother is related back to elite occult bloodlines, Cheney, Bush, etc. If there is an absolute requirement that the Antichrist be descended from the tribe of Dan, then I believe most (if not all) of these top families would be, whether or not they as individuals had any awareness of it.

IS OBAMA: LITERALLY "AMERICAS FIRST JEWISH PRESIDENT"?

http://www.etherzone.com/2009/mako100909.shtml

(Jewish website) Obama half-brother has Jewish roots:

http://jta.org/news/article/2009/11/04/ ... wish-roots

President Obama's half-brother has a Jewish mother.

Mark Ndesandjo is the product of Barack Obama Sr.'s marriage to his third wife, Ruth Nidesand, a Jewish American, the Associated Press reports.

Obama's Jewish roots run deep:

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/op ... _deep.html

Don't take our word for it. The Jewish Daily Forward, which published a long piece on Rabbi Capers Funnye (at right in picture), one of the nation's most prominent black rabbis and the cousin of Michelle Obama.

"While Barack Obama has struggled to capture Jewish votes, it turns out that one of his wife's cousins is the country's most prominent black rabbi.

Michelle Obama, wife of the Democratic presidential nominee, is a first cousin once removed of Rabbi Capers Funnye, spiritual leader of a mostly black synagogue on Chicago's South Side. Funnye's mother, Verdelle Robinson Funnye, and Michelle Obama's paternal grandfather, Frasier Robinson Jr., were brother and sister.

Funnye (pronounced fuh-NAY) is the chief rabbi of the Beth Shalom B'nai Zaken Ethiopian Hebrew Congregation in southwest Chicago. He is well known in Jewish circles for acting as a bridge between mainstream Jewry and the much smaller, and largely separate, world of black Jewish congregations, sometimes known as black Hebrews, or Israelites. He has often urged the larger Jewish community to be more accepting of Jews who are not white.

Obama could have been born in Russia for all we know, considering the money and effort spent in fighting the release of an offical birth certificate:

Investigators: Obama uses Connecticut Soc. Sec. Number:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=152773

Robert Siciliano, president and CEO of IDTheftSecurity.com and a nationally recognized expert on identity theft, agrees the Social Security number should be questioned.

"I know Social Security numbers have been issued to people in states where they don't live, but there's usually a good reason the person applied for a Social Security number in a different state," Siciliano told WND.

WND asked Siciliano whether he thought the question was one the White House should answer.

"Yes," he replied. "In the case of President Obama, I really don't know what the good reason would be that he has a Social Security number issued in Connecticut when we know he was a resident of Hawaii."

Siciliano is a frequent expert guest on identify theft on cable television networks, including CNN, CNBC and the Fox News Channel.

Praise and Worship of Obama:

Compare Charlie Chaplin's use of the Gospel of Luke at the end of the clip (6:43 to end) with:

We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.

[jgress]

So the evidence you have is that Obama's mother's father MAY have had Jewish ancestry (unclear how much and on which side), making him less than a quarter Jewish, and no evidence at all that this ancestry was of the tribe of Dan. No evidence whatsoever that he was born in Russia. Unsupported assumption that if we have 'Biblical scare disasters' now, Antichrist must already be reigning, despite the fact that the Temple has not been rebuilt. Tendentious claim that Soviet power fell during the Sino-Soviet war in 1969, with basically no supporting evidence and against all other evidence (I seem to recall that the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991).

[Ian]

So the evidence you have is that Obama's mother's father MAY have had Jewish ancestry (unclear how much and on which side), making him less than a quarter Jewish, and no evidence at all that this ancestry was of the tribe of Dan. No evidence whatsoever that he was born in Russia. Unsupported assumption that if we have 'Biblical scare disasters' now, Antichrist must already be reigning, despite the fact that the Temple has not been rebuilt. Tendentious claim that Soviet power fell during the Sino-Soviet war in 1969, with basically no supporting evidence and against all other evidence (I seem to recall that the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991).

I didn't say we have Biblical scale disasters now, you did.

Do you want to dig up the exact wording of the prophecy on the Soviet vs. China war, and compare and contrast with other prophecies? I'm just speaking from memory of a cursory reading of it. But, is a 1969 war leading to a 1991 collapse of Soviet power really more of a stretch than a literal Antichrist state that survived its own dissolution (my impression from the writings of V. Moss) fighting a future war with China which brings these things about?

[jgress]

Sorry, I misunderstood the point you were making about the disasters.

Well, legally speaking the Soviet Union ended in 1991, but Moss' point is that Soviet power remained in charge in Russia after that. Subsequent Russian governments have always claimed to be the legal successors of the Soviet government, i.e. there was no clean break. Moreover, the democratic period of the 1990s was really a deception, and now with the old KGB regaining full control over the government in Russia, and the restoration of Soviet symbols in public life, it is clear that the red beast is still alive, and that the prophecy that Soviet power will collapse in a Third World War, with China as the primary antagonist, has not yet been fulfilled. The 1969 war may have been a foreshadowing, but since Soviet power most certainly did not collapse as a result of that war (which was really only a series of skirmishes), I can't see how you can argue that the prophecy has already been fulfilled.

In any case, your arguments that Obama himself is Antichrist are extremely weak, as I think I have already shown.

[Ian]

In any case, your arguments that Obama himself is Antichrist are extremely weak, as I think I have already shown.

Try and think outside the box a little. The tribe of Dan is one of the lost tribes of Israel, having lost its identity out among the Gentiles. Over the millenia almost anyone currently alive has some DNA from the tribe of Dan in them, witness how easy it is to have Jewish relations (from the "known" tribes) that I showed. That Obama isn't Jewish by Orthodox, Conservative, or Reform Judaic standards (composed of members from the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi) actually qualifies him to be a potential member of the tribe of Dan.

http://www.orthodox.cn/saints/manofgod/3pen.htm

But what is known about this man, Antichrist? His precise ancestry is unknown. His father is completely unknown, while his mother is a defiled, pretended virgin. He will be a Jew from the tribe of Dan. There is an indication of this, in that Jacob, when dying, said that [Dan], in his posterity, would be a serpent by the way…biting the heel of the horse (and the rider shall fall backward) [Gen. 49:17]. This is a figurative indication that he will act with craftiness and evil.

In Revelation, John the Theologian speaks of the salvation of the sons of Israel, that before the end of the world a multitude of Jews will be converted to Christ; but the tribe of Dan is not included in the enumeration of the tribes that are saved.

Antichrist will be very intelligent and gifted with the ability to deal with people. He will be charming and affectionate.

This seems to be an sermon of St. John of Shanghai and San Francisco:

http://www.orthodox.cn/saints/manofgod/

Going back to the Henry Makow's article (himself a Jew who became a heterodox Christian):

http://www.etherzone.com/2009/mako100909.shtml

She allowed a Communist degenerate Frank Davis to take pornographic pictures of her, which are on the Internet. (Google Images) Davis boasted of bedding white women and some believe Davis is Obama's real father. Certainly Barack Obama Sr. didn't waste any time abandoning mother and son.

[jgress]

Well at most you can say we do not know he is NOT of the tribe of Dan, since the tribe is, as you say, lost. Of course, we could say this about many, many people. In other words, we just don't know one way or other.

Makow's argument that Obama's maternal grandfather was Jewish seems to be based on some intuition rather than hard evidence: 'he looks Jewish'. I guess it takes one to know one or something? I don't consider it a valid argument anyway. And what's the Davis connection supposed to prove? Is Davis Jewish?

[Ian]

http://www.orthodox.cn/saints/manofgod/3pen.htm

But what is known about this man, Antichrist? His precise ancestry is unknown. His father is completely unknown, while his mother is a defiled, pretended virgin.

http://www.etherzone.com/2009/mako100909.shtml

She allowed a Communist degenerate Frank Davis to take pornographic pictures of her, which are on the Internet. (Google Images) Davis boasted of bedding white women and some believe Davis is Obama's real father. Certainly Barack Obama Sr. didn't waste any time abandoning mother and son.

Farrakhan Calls Obama "The Messiah":

Rep. Cohen Compares Obama to Jesus on floor of Congress:

Jan 22nd 2009:

http://www.economist.com/research/artic ... d=12987505

Two days before the inauguration, when a preacher told a crowd that Mr Obama was not the Messiah, he was booed (in jest, one hopes).

Is Barack Obama The Messiah?