On Hallowe'en

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Schultz,

YEah, that's the way to go. The filed reports of such activities simply don't match up with your story. An examination of archives of the New York Post, which would fall over itself for such stories, simply doesn't coincide with your stories. I'm not doubting that you heard them, I'm doubting the source who told you such things. Sensationalism doesn't just occur in the newspaper.

And is everything found really reported in official reports? That is why my friend told me, cause this is a more hush hush situation that people don't talk about..because of the skeptism. Who would want to openly admit this...they would be considered nut cases.

Then again, who would ACTUALLY believe that people can be possessed by demons...THAT really sounds nuts...right?

My point is that, there are things that happen which are not always revealed to the public. Like the fact, that subways stop in the middle of tracks because a person just committed suicide. Do we see that in the papers? If we did, it would be in the papers EVERY DAY. But, I know that only because I have a friend who works for the subway. Again, another unreliable source to you. So be it.

Just forget what I said. If you don't care to believe, that's fine by me...but I'm not making it up. But, hey, in a world where so many people don't even believe that Jesus Christ is our Saviour and is God...well then, I'm not surprised to anyone doubting anything anyone says. Especially, of what I may say.

Can we just leave it as a basic commentary. No agruements need to be pursued. Okay?

CGW,

I doubt that you are a moron, but the history of these discussions demonstrates that you are not exercising your powers of judgement effectively.

Well, that explains your confused responses. You thought you were talking to a protestant, perhaps?

Most people here know that I am an Orthodox Christian, converted from Catholic. I haven't read all the books in the world about theology. That's my lack of knowledge, okay? That's why I like to know what people are, so that I can understand their comments. When I started here, I thought everybody that wrote were Orthodox, cradle or converted. Now I know better. What I read from your comments, you are an Anglican? Me a mormon? :lol:

at the same time, our criticism of our opponents is tainted by the sin of having to win.

Hence, the reason I sensed your need to battle. I didn't come here to battle with the wits of my "opponents". I came here to share with others. Since it is an Orthodox board, I hoped to learn more from other Orthodox people, no offense to the non-Orthodox, but why should I apologize for being Orthodox.

What is the Orthodox Christian view of witchcraft, CGW? Do you have any thoughts on that?

"do you have a conscience?" remark is utterly out of line,

I was referring to your bashing. As to my self-righteousness...that was not my meaning.

I only want to persuade you that you need to change your attitude towards the kind of stories and claims that you pass along from others.

I also have "claims" of friends who had relatives possessed by demons, but I guess, in your book of what can be said or not...it would be too fantastical. And I guess we can ignore the parts of the Bible that talk about satan too, right? But, you don't know me, so of course, you have every right to doubt what I say.

CGW,

Is witchcraft and paganism acceptable by God the Father of the Holy Trinity?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

This is all I was stating. Let's leave it to my personal opinion. I guess I read too many writings of saints about demons.

One more question CGW, do YOU believe that satan and the demons are real?

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And is everything found really reported in official reports? That is why my friend told me, cause this is a more hush hush situation that people don't talk about..because of the skeptism. Who would want to openly admit this...they would be considered nut cases.

Have you ever read the New York Post??? It is just a few stories away from being an checkout counter tabloid. They will print ANYTHING that will sell papers, and a ritualistic killing in New York City most assuredly will sell newspapers, especially in Manhattan itself. That's all I'm saying about this.

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Post by ania »

Joasia,
I'm all about conspiracy theories, cover-ups, yada yada, as a member of the old-school Russian immigration, I'm almost required to be suspicious, however, do you really think coving up ritualistic killings is in NYC's best intrest? I really don't see how it would make things easier on conspiritors.
As for remains of ritual sites (without body parts)... might have been a homeless person making a fire in Central Park on a cold night. Any one whos been in NYC during a cold snap sees that.
As for remains of ritual sites with body parts (you said small hearts, livers etc?) Quite honestly, people are all about declaring their kin missing, especially if its kids. If all of a sudden several kids disappeared all at the same time, there would be a HUGE outcry, not just from the parents, but the rest of the family who will wonder, "Where has little Johnny gone?" Also schools & churches would notice one of their students or parishoners missing.
I'm not saying ritualistic killings haven't occured in NYC, I don't have time right now to look it up, but I'm sure if I Googled it I'd find quite a few.
Anyway, logicly it makes no sense, for there to be a cover-up... The cops especially would get awesome press & community support if they catch the baby-killers. The satanists themselves aren't likely rich enough to bribe the WHOLE NYC NYPD. Someone in there has a consience & would talk to the news. It's unpracticle.
Well, gotta get back to work.

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:lol:
http://www.thestranger.com/current/special.html

Now, some of these are just not right!

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I hope everyone had a blessed and joyous feastday of St. Luke.

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Post by ania »

Oy, I knew it was St. John's, & I was planning on going, but in the rush to get the last of our things out of our old apartment, I completely forgot until well after vigil was over. :oops:

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THE CELEBRATION OF HALLOWEEN

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Dear brothers and sisters!

Once again for us who are living in the United States comes that time of the year, when a diabolical holiday is legally being promoted.

Let us remember the appeal of our Orthodox Church – to refrain ourselves and protect our children from (even unwitting) participation in idolatry and Satan worship. Teach your children. Tell them about the pagan and satanic roots of Halloween. Let them stay home and not go to school on that day, so as not to take part in preparations for this “holiday.”

In the evening, when the streets are full of frenzied masqueraders, come to church together with your children. It is not by chance that on that day the Holy Church celebrates the eve of the commemoration of the great and beloved Russian saint, St. John of Kronstadt. The Lord gave us this church feast and this divine intercessor as a powerful weapon against Satan’s wiles. On the terrible eve of Halloween, come to church in order to protect yourselves and your children from the forces of evil, and in order to acquire genuine joy and the grace of God in celebrating our great saint.

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