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Mykael
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Re: An agenda laid out...

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Kollyvas wrote:

If you bother to READ, I've given full disclosure on my agenda. I'm not going to stand for no-nothing nonsense. Either READ the posts where my opinion is clearly put forward or not, but don't waste my time with semi-literacy. program but discuss things with people WHO ARE INFORMED, avoiding the ignorant morass your ilk keeps putting forward. Now, trouble me not again--anything you have to say is ignorant, uninfoormed and lacking any and all Orthodox formation and sincerity. Go and trouble someone else in your shangri la of nonsense.
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PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER, from another post:

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1). The purpose of what I present is manifold:
a. To support Orthodox resistance while promoting Orthodox unity and reconciliation.
b. To support the Tikhonite agenda and what was ROCOR...
c. To illustrate the conditions of modern Russia and the East so that others can make INFORMED assessments of whats transpiring.
d. To illustrate and lionize the bloodlust and insanity of islam and its effects on the world and us.
e. To promote an American/Diasporan Orthodoxy which is a restoration of Orthodoxy in the West, grounded in the Orthodox Tradition.
f. To inform of the hostile climate of the secular world to develop Orthodox solutions.
g. To promote reconciliation of Non-Chalcedonians under the framework set forth at the Fifth Ecumenical Council.

Now we are acquainted...
R M Malleev-Pokrovsky

My Charity, I don't care about your agenda, I care about you opinion. Without some context there can be no direct discussion. I can neither oppose nor support your postion. Because you do not make one. These stories are not your opinion they belong to someone else unless you state otherwise. The content has someone elses name not yours.

I do not want to "shut you up" Quite the contrary. But you must place debate in context.

I am not attacking you. I do not understand why you want to attack me. I am not insincere, semi-literate, and I am uncertain what "ilk" you refer to.

"Now, trouble me not again--anything you have to say is ignorant, uninfoormed(sic) and lacking any and all Orthodox formation and sincerity."

:ohvey: That is a very unkind thing to say...

But I will do as you ask.

The lowly Mykael

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Please Kollivas, I think that you should moderate your behavior if you don't it, we regrettably will have to take some measure with you.

P Siluan

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Me?

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Bless Father.
I have a question to ask you in all respect:
Am I an Orthodox topic to discuss on your group? Are you going to allow me to be continually badgered by these people for no other reason than "silencing me"? Is harassment of my person legitimate?
I take umbrage at the fact that certain parties who lack gravitas in their convictions can engage in these types of tactics and somehow reproof be issued in my direction. I have the right to defend myself, Father.
ORTHODOXIA I THANATOS!
R M Malleev-Pokrovsky
The lebedeff camarilla WILL NOT imprison my conscience! Please, Father, allow my person the freedom from assault by the goons of others.
Father, why wasn't I contacted in private?!

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Re: Me?

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Kollyvas wrote:

Father, why wasn't I contacted in private?!

YOU PUBLICLY AGRESS PEOPLE IN THE FORUM AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE CRITICIZED IN PUBLIC!!! Quite illogical...

Priidite, poklonimsja i pripadem ko Hristu.

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Kollyvas

I can be blunt when I need to be (and even often when I don't need to, and even shouldn't), so let me attempt to lay it out straight. You're hurting your cause. You're cutting your own legs out from under you. Many people begin to not care what you say, because in your speaking greatly you end up saying nothing substantial. To wit, I am not going to read 20 news articles on the off chance that one might interest me; thus, when I click on the "new threads" (or whatever) link, I no longer look at subjects to see if they interest me, but I look at the names; if you started the thread, I skip it. That has nothing to do with my opinion of you personally, or my opinion of the articles. It merely has to do with the fact that I have a finite amount of time to spend online, and I am not going to spend an hour at this forum every day sorting through stuff (and if I took the time to actually read everything you posted, it would probably take 3 or 4 hours). Isn't there a proverb that says that you will know a fool by his continually speaking, whether in season or out, helpful or not, etc.? I am not calling you a fool, but asking you to examine whether perhaps you would have more influence, and whether your comments and articles would have more impact, if you were to pull back a bit and cease the attempted shock and awe tactics. One sober news article with some commentary would go a lot further than 20 news articles that indirectly touch upon a subject.

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The forum is not a press agency

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The forum is not a press agency... There are already sites with information about the Orthodox world... So why flooding the forum with agancy news... The forum is made to discuss and share opinions... So a agency new without any commentariy is garbage...

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Jean-Serge:

A valiant attempt, but in fact a wasted effort. This is no longer an Orthodox forum.....It has become Kollyvas's personl blog at Fr Dcn Nikolai's expense. I suspect that Dcn Nikolai has lost interest here and so Kollyvas has taken over. There is less and less here that is worth looking at and more and more garbage. I don't even bother opening anything that Kollyvas has posted. I already know that there is nothing edifying there. So why bother? This site will soon go the way of other good sites that have been destroyed by the same sorts found here. When the copy-right laws catch up to this site, we will be the ones to suffer and we will be the ones asked to help with the legal bills. I'm not even sure I would help.......All our pleas are ignored. All our requests come to nothing.

It's sad really as I have enjoyed my time here.

Katya

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