The New Holy Mountain Fathers

[Lemon Schist]

What is the standard on revising a statement or making a declaration on a topic? I am asking because I have no idea.
BTW, thank you for providing those resources. That is an excellent statement made by the AOM. The Orthodox Talks series was one of my first exposures to the faith as an WO Inquirer, and I have listened to the entire series.

[eish]

What is the standard on revising a statement or making a declaration on a topic? I am asking because I have no idea.

I honestly don't really care. If the synod declares that they retract the previous communique which was made in error, and either take down the old one or preferably slap a disclaimer on it stating that it has been retracted and where to read the update, then I'm happy as a chappy. The retraction should simply mention that the old position is retracted and what the new position is--namely that the faithful should be instructed not to take it--with some kind of explanation as to why.

Remember, people are still being injected with this filth. It is not over and there is no excuse for keeping up a henoticon which tells priests not to talk about it. This matter affects souls.

In fairness covidism was so extreme and so badly handled that there should be a universal condemnation for all the faithful to read. If there were an Oecumenical Council I would want it to be on the agenda.

I would also want it to address the matter which has now come to our attention, of all recently developed vaccines of all types being made from (not tested on but made from) aborted children. This should be absolutely condemned even more than the RNA shots. As in, you are not allowed to give your children MMR shots. You are not allowed to take tetanus shots. You are not allowed to take (with minimal exceptions) chickenpox or shingles shots. You are not allowed to take HPV shots. Most of these things aren't even really proven to work in any way. (And I can promise you that it is easy to cook “scientific” testing regardless.)

Numerous other medicines are affected. That darling of anti-vaxers, the monoclonal antibody so beloved by alternative media in the past four years, should be condemned from the bell tower of every church.

But if we can just start with retracting the henoticon, that would be already correcting the mistake which is currently in effect.

[Lemon Schist]

I had no idea that monoclonal antibodies were a problem. I just read up on them, and my question is whether it is the use of the "immortal" cancer cells or the creation of the hybridoma specifically? Honestly, is sounds like they took a page right out of Frankenstein's Monster. Unless I misunderstood, it also sounds like their early efforts involved chimeric cells made from mouse tumors and sheep cells. So, I can see how it is ethically questionable and kind of demonic.
I really am trying to learn here, so please don't take my questions as being combative. I have had a secular frame of reference for most of my life and am working to replace it with an Orthodox one, so I ask your patience.

[eish]

There are different kinds of monoclonal antibodies. A basic example may go something like this:

Take a genetically engineered mouse and kill off its immune system. (Whether by genetic engineering, chemotherapy, or radiotherapy.) Now replace it with a hybridised human immune system (possibly obtained from aborted children; it generally isn't specified in the literature where it comes from). The human immune cells may be genetically engineered to help avoid killing the mouse--that is the part I'm unsure of because I will need to read the procedures in great detail. Vaccinate the mouse. Harvest the blood from the mouse. Separate out antibodies and sell those as a cure.

But sure, that sounds “better” than the vax to the ignorant despite having almost all the same problems and some new ones.

[Lemon Schist]

I've never really spent any time thinking about this, I had previously assumed that the medical industry was working from at least a minimal ethical baseline (naïve, I realize) but the scamdemic woke me up to that lie. I knew about the transhumanist agenda but I was focused more on the obvious stuff and not so much on this hidden aspect. I am grateful that you brought it to my attention. I had no plans on ever taking any vaccine ever again but this definitely sheds new light on the entire industry.

[eish]

Let's not go too far off topic. To the extent that we are talking about the new Athonites and comparing their resistance to covidism versus some of the TO jurisdictions I would still do that here, but if we want to go into detail on the medical industry or the GOC-K I'd take that to another thread.

The main point: it is such a pity that the GOC-K who resist ecumenism to some reasonable extent, does not effectively (synodally) resist covidism while the neo-Athonites resisted covidism to some reasonable extent (for non-hierarchs), while not resisting ecumenism effectively. Pity they couldn't do a prisoner exchange: the EP takes the GOC-K's covidists and the GOC-K takes the (Athonite) EP's anti-ecumenists.

It's especially sad that the fathers of Esphigmenou had to break communion with the GOC-K over this (see first post) but I think it was justified.

[Barbara]

That is really important information, though, that Esphigmenou broke communion with the GOC-K.
I hadn't known that until this 'timely timeline' - !

It really helps to see everything laid out clearly like that.

Did any others break communion with the GOC-K over this topic ?
They absolutely SHOULD HAVE.

I remember seeing the video of Met Demetrios talking about this.
I don't know where it is now, but it did exist.