Matrona of Moscow: Distraction from the REAL Saints

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Re: Matrona of Moscow: Distraction from the REAL Saints

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Now that you know, it's incumbent upon you to take the proper steps. Let God worry about the Ukrainian matushka.

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Other than moving closer to a TO parish, I don't know what the intermediary steps are.

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Lemon Schist, Wonderful that you are able to study and read - especially HERE on E.C., where there is actually a fountain of wisdom if you check bac thru old threads too.

Thank you for having that willpower to struggle thru all this uncomfortable learning stage.

It's hard to hear things questioned that you always believed were fine.

Why don't you donate your "Matronushka 'icon'" to a parish of your choice, so to as to get it out of the house ? I view these false saints as actually poisonous to the atmosphere where one resides or works.
They most likely bring discordancy rather than any semblance of holiness.
Your user name suggests fresh, invigorating sunshine, so you don't want any pollution from false saints to cloud your days !

We're here to help, just ask for ideas or explanations about some of these difficult topics. There are threads also on other MP people like Bishop Luke of Simferopol which explain why, from our point of view, he is NO Saint !

For a start.

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Barbara wrote: Sun 3 August 2025 6:55 pm

Lemon Schist, Wonderful that you are able to study and read - especially HERE on E.C., where there is actually a fountain of wisdom if you check bac thru old threads too.

I'm working my way through them.

Thank you for having that willpower to struggle thru all this uncomfortable learning stage.

It's hard to hear things questioned that you always believed were fine.

It wasn't so much that I believed everything was fine, it was that I have struggled to overcome my decades of disbelief when it comes to things like miracles. I struggled so hard to accept the stories I read about in the Lives of Saints and was constantly buffeted by intrusive thoughts of skepticism on the miracles witnessed. So finding out that the "saints" that I prayed to and felt like they had helped me were false, and that the WO is false has been a win for the Old Man in me who had faith in nothing but "science." I'm fighting it though and praying about it.

Why don't you donate your "Matronushka 'icon'" to a parish of your choice, so to as to get it out of the house ? I view these false saints as actually poisonous to the atmosphere where one resides or works.
They most likely bring discordancy rather than any semblance of holiness.
Your user name suggests fresh, invigorating sunshine, so you don't want any pollution from false saints to cloud your days !

We're here to help, just ask for ideas or explanations about some of these difficult topics. There are threads also on other MP people like Bishop Luke of Simferopol which explain why, from our point of view, he is NO Saint !

For a start.

I don't know how I feel about donating something that can be considered poisonous. I may bury them.
I remember when I first read about Bishop Luke and being surprised by his willingness to bow to Stalin. I thought it was really odd, but there again I assumed it was my old skepticism rearing its head.

The forum has been an excellent resource for understanding the different canons and learning about St. Philaret, among other subjects...I've kind of gotten a bit obsessed about reading it all.

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