Counsels from the Holy Mountain.

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jgress wrote:

Thank you for these edifying posts, Silver. One minor concern of mine is that these writings are by Elder Ephraim, who commemorates the Ecumenical Patriarch and follows the New Calendar, putting him outside the True Church. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with THESE writings, but the authorship may scandalize some on this forum. Are there no similar writings by truly Orthodox authors that you can post?

If you don't mind, would you please tell me which is the True Church?

Thanks in advance.

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On Illness

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From the time our sweet Jesus lifted the life-giving wood of the precious Cross on His immaculate shoulders and was hanged upon it, from that time and throughout the ages, lifting the cross is continued by His followers in the form of various afflictions and trials, through which the Christian triumphs over the many forms of destructive self-love. Through Luke the Evangelist, the Savior stresses that “whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple.” (Lk. 14:27 ). And again: “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, take up his cross daily, and follow Me.” (Lk. 9:23 ). Abba Isaac, the hesychast philosopher, says, “Man changes at every moment.” Indeed, the dispositions of both the soul and body do not stop changing at any moment, sometimes bringing about distress, at other times pain, sometimes expectation of sad news, at other times an undefined disorder and distress of soul and body. All of these are due to either bodily or spiritual causes, which confirm God’s curse that burdened the race of man due to the disobedience of Adam and Eve. But the good Jesus, the Tree of life, on the one hand by His holy example, and on the other by His divine teachings, pours out the balsam of consolation upon the cross of afflictions along with many life-giving assurances that it is through many tribulations that we shall be able to enter His kingdom(cf. Acts 14:22 ). In the Old Testament, in the Book of Numbers, among other things, the following distinctive event is narrated: “When the Israelites had disobeyed God in the wilderness, as a punishment for their disobedience He sent serpents to them which bit and killed them. But God heard the prayer of Moses, who was fervently praying for this wrath to abate, and ordered him to make a bronze serpent and lift it up on the pole. And all who were bitten by the serpents were immediately healed when they looked at the bronze serpent” (cf. Num. 21:6-9 ). And in the Holy Gospel, our Jesus likened the elevation of the bronze serpent to His own life-giving elevation on the Cross by saying: “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up.” (Jn.3:14 ). So sin—which is the meaning of the poisonous serpent—bites man, poisoning the entire being of his poor soul through culpable and passionate pleasure, which brings about the soul’s death and separation from God. But our Christ, the noetic bronze serpent, who was hanged on the life-giving wood of the precious Cross, through the lofty truths of the gospel, heals the souls that have been bitten by various sins, giving them a living hope of a life beyond comprehension. “O Death, where is thy sting? O Hades, where is thy victory? (1 Cor. 15:55 ). The powers of your horrible tyranny were abolished, annihilated, enfeebled, and completely put to death by the death and resurrection of Jesus, our God, Who saves our souls. The heart is poisoned and darkened by pleasure and sensuality. Then, since it is darkened, it does the work of darkness, grieving the Holy Spirit Whom it had received through rebirth in the sacred baptismal font. Conversely, pain and affliction expel culpable sensuality from the heart. As it is cleansed by pain, it becomes capable of receiving the comforting Spirit. Once the good Comforter comes, He consoles, encourages, and enlightens the heart, and as a nurturer He gives it life with the divine teachings and the aids of joy and hope. So look upon the noetic bronze serpent, Jesus, Who heals through pain all souls that suffer from the bites of poisonous sin in its many forms. From the unshakeable truths derived from experience, it follows that pain and affliction are the most essential medicine for the soul which is ill with sin. At the same time, they are also excellent teachers for the spiritual uplifting of the soul which has sullied its beauty in sin and moral darkness and has thereby acquired morally evil habits. Pain, in the various meanings of the word, becomes the skillful cultivator that takes a sinful soul that is like a wild olive tree and grafts it onto o good olive tree. Sin hardens the heart of the sinner and renders him unfeeling; nothing moves him, because God, Who has feeling and sympathy for people, is missing. However, what does God do—He Who loves mankind, Who “came to seek and to save that which was lost”? (cf. Lk. 19:10 ). He draws up a plan of salvation through pain, and especially through illness, for the soul which has gone astray. You see, for example, a youth in his prime, puffed up because of his strength and behaving arrogantly, forgetting about God and his soul—then suddenly he lies prostrate on a bed of pain. Then, as a most experienced and skillful doctor, pain begins its surgery. First, it operates on the heart by removing its hardness little by little, and thus it softens the soul. He who was formerly hard of heart becomes soft and calm in his feelings. He commiserates with his fellow patients, and he who was formerly unsympathetic speaks with sympathy. And once his heart has been prepared through these and various other feelings brought about by the instructive rod of pain, then the ears of his previously deaf soul open, and he accepts, retains, and attentively listens to the word of truth, the gospel of salvation. Then he who was formerly indifferent to God and to his soul becomes zealous in reading various religious books and periodicals. He begins to recall his sinfulness with genuine contrition and feeling. Thus he learns to pray with compunction and soon becomes an eloquent preacher of the benefactions of the excellent doctor, pain, proclaiming that it alone cures the illness of being far from God. Pain cures not only the person who is far from God; it also heals souls that are healthy, but partially ill with a “sickness not unto death,” (Jn. 11:4 ), such as occasional indifference, criticism, self-love, cowardice, doubts, and so on. Pain exercises its activity even in the saints so that through their patience their glory may be increased. However, the saints often suffer also to give an example to others, as happened with long-suffering Job, St. Syncletiki, and so many other saints. When we have a beautiful piece of furniture and leave it unattended to for a period of time, we see that a layer of fine dust settles upon it. True—it is not ruined, but it has lost some of its shine and beauty. This also happens to a healthy soul when it does not have afflictions now and then. For example, indifference, if one does not attend to it in time, little by little without anyone realizing it, settles in the soul like dust on the furniture, and the soul loses its original zeal towards God. It does pray; it does fulfill its duties, but not as it should. But if pain comes, if affliction visits, then the wind blows and the flame—that is, the zeal to fulfill its duties to God—is kindled again. Just as it happens with indifference, so it happens also with every other illness of the soul. Pain is the divine medicine which the infinite wisdom of God devised for the ailing soul, and He uses it with absolute authority and no reserve so that through such an effective medicine, we may come to our senses and be watchful and vigilant in executing His holy will. Thus at the time of repayment we may receive, as a reward for vigilantly cleaving to His will, entrance into the eternal delight of the Lord, rejoicing and exulting in it together with those who have been called from all ages. There, together with the Lady Theotokos, the angels, and all the saints, we shall praise with endless, joyful hymns the blessed name of our Lord and God and Savior Jesus Christ, to Whom belong all glory, honor, and dominion unto the endless ages of ages.

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Silver wrote:

If you don't mind, would you please tell me which is the True Church?
Thanks in advance.

Dear Mr. Silver,

I've enjoyed your posts over the years and appreciate that you've continued to contribute despite the long lull in this forum, which we are attempting to turn around.

Pardon my butting in, but to answer your question in the negative, the Church is certainly not where any bishop is serving on the New Calendar or participating in Ecumenism.

To answer your question in the affirmative, the local Church of Greece is that headed by His Beatitude Archbishop Chrysostomos II (Kiousis). That some may disagree with me here will be of little consequence to me, and they are entitled to their own opinions.

Yours in Christ,

Fr Anastasios

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Fr Anastasios wrote:

Dear Mr. Silver,
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Pardon my butting in, but to answer your question in the negative, the Church is certainly not where any bishop is serving on the New Calendar......

Yours in Christ,

Fr Anastasios

I am taking your statement : the Church is certainly not where any bishop is serving on the New Calendar.

Now let me understand correctly. In 1924 the Church of Greece which is a local Church of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Christ,
did accept the corrected Julian Calendar or as you called it: New Calendar. Its action to adjust to the corrected Julian Calendar or New Calendar, didn’t create
any Dogmatic problem to The Church, since all the rest local Churches (Autocephalous and Patriarchates ) of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Christ
continue to have full communion with Her.

Now we have only two possibilities:
1) If by changing the Calendar the local Church of Greece, became heretic and therefore the Whole Church, that is the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Christ, became heretic by having full communion with Her, or,
2) The Church of Greece even though it changed the Calendar, continues to be a local Church Of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Christ.

Since Christ assured us that His Church will be here until his Second Glorious Coming (... I will build my Church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Mt. 16:18 ),
we have no other choice than to accept the number two case!

In Christ,
Costas.

P.S.
I appreciate your understanding of my English :)

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Dear Costas,

Fr Anastasios will also be responding, but I just want to ask you to be aware this is a True Orthodox forum, and most of us here do not believe that the New Calendar Church of Greece is part of the True Church. By accepting the New Calendar, most of us believe the state church fell under the 1583 anathema against the Papal calendar. Now, if you don't believe this, you don't have to agree with us, but we ask that you keep this in mind and avoid scandalizing others.

In Christ

Jonathan

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Silver wrote:

I am taking your statement : the Church is certainly not where any bishop is serving on the New Calendar.

Now let me understand correctly. In 1924 the Church of Greece which is a local Church of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Christ, did accept the corrected Julian Calendar or as you called it: New Calendar. Its action to adjust to the corrected Julian Calendar or New Calendar, didn’t create any Dogmatic problem to The Church, since all the rest local Churches (Autocephalous and Patriarchates ) of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Christ continue to have full communion with Her.

Now we have only two possibilities:
1) If by changing the Calendar the local Church of Greece, became heretic and therefore the Whole Church, that is the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Christ, became heretic by having full communion with Her, or,
2) The Church of Greece even though it changed the Calendar, continues to be a local Church Of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Christ.

Since Christ assured us that His Church will be here until his Second Glorious Coming (... I will build my Church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Mt. 16:18 ), we have no other choice than to accept the number two case!

In Christ,
Costas.

P.S.
I appreciate your understanding of my English :)

Dear Costas,

Thanks for bringing up an important topic. I will try to write a summary response of a complex topic. I know that ultimately this issue divides your communion from mine, and so I will try to be as charitable as possible while stating my position clearly.

The hierarchy of the Church of Greece accepted the New Calendar in 1924, which was a schismatic act because it violated the Pan-Orthodox Synods of the 16th century which anathematized the New Calendar (the "Revised Julian" is just a legalistic attempt to skirt around that issue).

Between 1924 and 1935, there were several attempts to stop the implementation of the New Calendar in some dioceses, other hierarchs attempted to protest quietly at the change, and there were attempts by clerics and laypeople to find support in other local Churches to call a Council to decide the issue.

The State Church of Greece declared the Old Calendarists schismatics, and by 1935, it was clear that the hierarchy of the State Church of Greece was not going to reverse its decision, and so Metropolitans Chrysostomos of Florina, Germanos of Demetrias, and Chrysostomos of Zakynthos severed communion with the innovators. The innovators declared them graceless and the 3 Orthodox bishops who broke off communion with the innovators declared them schismatic as well. It was at this point that the division went from a question of the New Calendarists being a parasynagogue (a division within the Church, as per St Basil) to a schism. The hierarchs were patient and waited until such time as it was absolutely clear that a decision was made, because such issues are hasty.

Other Churches began to adopt the New Calendar, and as this happened, they too fell in to schism. The Romanian Church even adopted the Papal Paschalion for a few years in the 1920s. The Russian Church was taken over for a time by the Living Church, and a Catacomb Church developed there.

The New Calendar was just a precursor to further acts of syncretism and ecumenism, as we see was clearly the plan from the 1920 Patriarchal Encyclical. Therefore, we see that in various local Churches, the cancer spread, and they succumbed to Ecumenism, the New Calendar, and/or Sergianism.

The Russian Church Abroad withstood this and as the ecumenical contacts increased, they broke communion with or ceased concelebration with the innovating Churches. In 1969 they officially entered in to communion with the Greek Old Calendarists.

In 2007, the majority of the bishops and clergy of the Russian Church Abroad entered in to communion with the unrepentant Moscow Patriarchate and thus entered in to schism, a lamentable fact. But there were numerous bishops and priests who had not accepted this course, and had separated in 2001 seeing the course of action ahead, and in 2007, with the culmination of the events. It is not unusual that in a time of worldwide persecution or apostasy that we temporarily see more than one group of bishops in a local Church, and this is not the branch theory because these are all bishops with an Orthodox confession, not diverse Christians that have been separated for 500 years or more.

Therefore, the gates of hell have never prevailed against Christ’s Holy Orthodox Church, which in Greece is represented by the local Church under His Beatitude Archbishop Chrysostomos II of Athens and all Greece. Other local Churches have Old Calendarist/anti-ecumenist Synods that have maintained Orthodoxy in their respective spheres. The Church continues, without heresy present.

For more information on the Calendar, please see this excellent article:
http://www.hotca.org/index.php?option=c ... -awareness

I am sure that you will have objections to much of what I write, and I welcome constructive discussion. But if we ultimately get in to the routine of trading back old arguments back and forth, I will probably not have much interest in continuing the debate, as I have done so many times over the years.

In Christ,

Fr Anastasios

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On Illness

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God chastens and then heals; He raises up and casts down—who is able to withstand the will of the Lord? If God wills that we suffer, He has some salvific purpose in mind which we earthly ones are unable to foresee. Whereas patience, forbearance, and the humble acceptance of trials will always—yes, always—bring certain benefit later. My child, bear your cross, and know that all that we suffer is known to God, and as a true Father He tries in every way to form Jesus Christ within us (cf. Gal. 4:19 ). He wants us to suffer because He knows what He has prepared in the heavens for His suffering children. But if He did not send them afflictions, He would do them injustice, because they would be deprived of the ineffable blessings of heaven. The more we suffer, the more beautifully our crown of glory is woven! Never believe that you are possessed; never let any such thought deceive you. Such things happen to many monks when they become ill. This is how God has arranged things: when the body is ill, the soul follows accordingly, and when the soul suffers, the body also wastes away and sulks. The tempter was envious of you, my child, but let us be patient so that he may be foiled and God may be glorified. Who does not feel pain when he undergoes surgery, and who does not feel pain when he loses the grace of God and is swarmed by thousands of warped thoughts? This is how God’s wisdom has arranged things to bring about the soul’s correction. All things will pass, as well as the winter of our passions, and the sweet spring of health will blossom again, and you will rejoice and say, “It is good for me that Thou hast humbled me, that I may learn Thy statutes” (Ps. 118:71 ). As nature’s seasons—winter, spring, summer, and autumn—follow one another, likewise the spiritual seasons follow each other. One goes, another comes—and thus the soul becomes accustomed to all spiritual changes and becomes wise and experienced. This experience is grace, which supports the soul in times of terrible changes, so that from past trials it will know well that only patience and forbearance can provide a peaceful state and beneficial thoughts. In this manner, we emerge from trials with benefit, and we become wiser and more experienced.

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