the group I refer to is ROAC as well as the other miriad of such schismatic sects that have fallen both to the right and to the left off of hte Royal Path.
Joe Zollars
Moderator: Mark Templet
Joe?
Can you show me conclusive pproof that ROAC is in schism? This is not the first time since your abrupt leave from the ROAC that you have nade this claim. I would like to know where, when, how, and why ROAC is in schism. Can you provide me with these details?
In past conversations you claimed that I would have to fo to Father Mark to get this information because you were not knowledgeable in this. If this is the case than a comment like this has no value since there is no fact to back it up.
I awaait your response, If it is your sincere fear that ROAC has fallen into Schism then it would do you best ot explain it to us so that we might gain your knowledge.
Juvenaly
Can you show me conclusive pproof that ROAC is in schism? This is not the first time since your abrupt leave from the ROAC that you have nade this claim. I would like to know where, when, how, and why ROAC is in schism. Can you provide me with these details?
When the individuals left the Orthodox Church by leaving ROCOR. They were defrocked and/or deposed for their disobedience to Holy Tradition and in the case of at least one particular cergyman of ROAC apears to have changed Jurisdictions as often as some people change clothing. Why did these poor people leave? in pursuit of the truth or in pursuit of the greater "glory" of elevated clerical status? I think the answer is clear.
In past conversations you claimed that I would have to fo to Father Mark to get this information because you were not knowledgeable in this. If this is the case than a comment like this has no value since there is no fact to back it up.
Actually I suggested you contact one wiser and holier than myself, mainly because I didn't want to get into an argument with you but also because I did not have the time to discuss it at that time.
With prayers for the return of these people to the Church,
Joe Zollars
a page with much pertinent information. The above link is to a page with an enourmous amount of information about the Schismatics of ROAC, ROCIE, etc. If you scroll down about 1/4-1/3 of the way down you will find the stuff about ROAC.
With this post, I shall follow Natasha's advice and keep my mouth shut on this topic from this point onward.
Joe Zollars
Juvenaly Martinka wrote:Can you show me conclusive pproof that ROAC is in schism?
Who cannot see that a schism exists?
If I see clerics who move from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, rejecting one after the other, is it really so plausible that the clerics are the fixed point and everyone else who is moving?
AlaskanOrthodox wrote:Secondly, I have corresponded with His Grace Gregory and he is truly a righteous Hierarch and a true lover of souls.
Same reason Nick gave -- funny how this appears to be a major reason that someone chooses to join this schism. It is obvious that this is simply a Cult of Personality.
----------------------------------------------------
They say that I am bad news. They say "Stay Away."