Russia war

[Barbara]

Cyprian, You are really funny !
I hate to say, though, that i have NO CLUE who that Napolitano person is. Just like most big names [?] I could not say whether it's a music performer, movie 'star', political figure or other !!!

Well OK if you know about Larry Johnson as being unreliable, please can you tell me more ?

I complained about former CiA officer John Kiriakou [Syria thread]. I wasn't sure whether Larry Johnson is better - but i had been assuming in my mind that he's not quite as slithery as John Kiriakou.

I don't know about Larry Johnson's aloha shirts, either...! They don't add to his credibility in my eyes.

BUT - he is pro-Iran which I like and reasonable about Russia, unlike all the rest.

Cyprian, you have to realize that some True Orthodox DO take the Russian side in this Ukraine dispute. I am not aware what the percentages are, but if anyone knows, please advise the Forum.

I had been meaning to inquire today whether GOC-K's Met Demetrios is pro-Ukraine or not ? Do you have any idea ?? This COULD go on one of the Intra-TOC threads.

[Barbara]

Russia News reports the stupid decisions to stop imports of energy supplies from Russia starting next year, apparently as retaliation for Russia's refusal to yield to European wishes on Ukraine [?]::

"Europe is certainly on the path to destroying itself and going back to using firewood. [< !!]

The European Council has approved a complete ban on Russian liquefied natural gas supplies to the EU starting January 1, 2027, and pipeline gas starting September 30, 2027."

[Barbara]

"While America dominates media "propaganda," Russia imposes a terrifying industrial reality.

The language of numbers in Russian bombers prevails (payload, range, speed) and capability to operate in the harshest conditions.

And with missiles like the Kh-101 / Kh-102 with a range of 3500 km, it becomes clear that technological superiority is not always with those who own the biggest screen."



https://x.com/mog_russEN/status/2017668370611769587

[Cyprian]

I hate to say, though, that i have NO CLUE who that Napolitano person is. Just like most big names [?] I could not say whether it's a music performer, movie 'star', political figure or other !!!

Larry Johnson appears on Judge Napolitano's Judging Freedom YouTube channel at least once or twice a week. He must have appeared probably close to a couple hundred times now. He also appears on other shows occasionally as well, but I think the bulk of his interviews are on Napolitano's show.

Well OK if you know about Larry Johnson as being unreliable, please can you tell me more ?

All one needs to know, is that he is not a Christian, and it seems that the vast majority of all these other people that folks are following on X are not Christians either, so they are deluded, and not worth paying much attention to. Why should someone who's known Orthodox Christianity for many decades bother hearkening to a bunch of liars and propagandists on social media?

Why should we allow heretics and atheists to shape and mold our worldview? Are we unable to think for ourselves? I do my own research, and I don't listen to or look up to these liars, who pass themselves off as "experts". I do not allow them to beguile me. Larry Johnson is a total liar, who has made at least 7 trips to Russia since 2023, including an interview with that psychopath Lavrov. Yes, the communist Lavrov, who notoriously wore a communist CCCP sweater to the Trump-Putin Alaska summit.

BUT - he is pro-Iran which I like and reasonable about Russia, unlike all the rest.

There is something wrong with you if you like folks who are pro-Iran. Why should a Christian be pro-Iran, an Islamic country??? Are you pro-Islam, Barbara? Are you close to heresy?

Cyprian, you have to realize that some True Orthodox DO take the Russian side in this Ukraine dispute. I am not aware what the percentages are, but if anyone knows, please advise the Forum.

I don't doubt that. Ignorance and delusion are rampant in these evil times we live in. If by "the Russian side" you mean they support Putin and the RF, then they are not enlightened True Orthodox, but they are ignorant and confused.

Now, it's one thing to support and sympathize with the common folk of both Russia and Ukraine, but it is an entirely different thing to sympathize with the psychopathic leaders of Ukraine and Russia, Zelensky and Putin!

The only truly Orthodox Christian stance to take, is to recognize the obvious reality that Zelensky and Putin are both evil anti-Christian leaders, and to side with the populations who are suffering under their satanic regimes!

I had been meaning to inquire today whether GOC-K's Met Demetrios is pro-Ukraine or not ? Do you have any idea ?? This COULD go on one of the Intra-TOC threads.

This is the best analysis I've found on the topic from a priest in the GOC-K, that I can recommend for folks to read or listen to:

Orthodox Survival Course, Class 70: Wars and Rumors of Wars, Part B – A Paschal Reflection on the War Everybody is Talking About
Posted on May 11, 2022 by Father Steven Allen
https://orthodoxtruth.org/uncategorized ... ing-about/

You can either read a transcript, or follow the link at the top of the article to listen to the recording.

Fr. Steven's analysis above should not necessarily be considered any sort of official stance however, because remember, the synod did not hold the same opinion as Fr. Steven on the Corona delusion, and even sought to silence or suppress his views.

In any case, I can't be bothered to keep track of what every single person in every (nominally) TOC synod says about the war.

I can only say that, just like with the Corona delusion, I made my views on the war explicitly clear from the very outset in Feb 2022 in many FB postings, (and I warned people a war was coming several months prior to the invasion), and I have not changed my stance on the war in any meaningful or noticeable way over the last four years.

Sadly, the mistake that many fall into, is buying into the propaganda that the media foists on the public, trying to force people to "take sides". The corrupt and criminal Masonic media is always trying to get people to "take sides". They don't really care if you side with the Democrats or the Republicans, because both parties are thoroughly demonized, and totally under their control. They get what they want, no matter which party is in power.

I pointed this out on my FB a while back, when I was trying to convince folks of the futility of participating in American politics.

Bush 41 (R), Clinton (D), Bush 43 (R), Obama (D), Trump (R), Biden (D), Trump (R). You see? The secret society which controls elections and installs their agents in the White House, just alternates, D, R, D, R, D, R, and the country get worse off every 4 years. Nothing ever gets better no matter which party is in office.

Similarly, the Judaeo-Masonic cabal doesn't care if folks side with Russia or Ukraine, since the leaders of both countries are completely under their control. They just want folks to take a side, either side, to contribute to ratcheting up the enmity, so that the slaughter continues unabated, and the money-making machine continues to profit from the war. Of course, they will also profit from the rebuilding, just as they profit from the destruction.

I choose not to fall for their ploy. From the very outset of the war, I declared unapologetically that Putin and Zelensky are confederate, working hand and in hand together to prosecute this war on behalf of the diabolical interests of Jewish-Freemasonry, and the only correct position to soundly condemn them both.

I sympathize with the plight of the beleaguered Ukrainian people, who have been duped and led to their slaughter by that psychopathic traitor Zelensky. However, just because Zelensky is evil and a war criminal, it does not necessarily follow that Putin is necessarily righteous and not a traitor and a war criminal himself!

Alas, it's hard to find sophisticated thinkers to discourse with, who are able to recognize that all the parties to this war are to blame. It's Zelensky's fault, Putin's fault, Biden's fault, Trump's fault, Scholz's fault, Macron's fault, Boris Johnson's fault, Xi Jinping's fault, Kim Jong Un's fault, etc.

Most everyone is under the spell and hypnosis of the criminal and corrupt media, which tells us, if Putin is bad, Zelensky must be good, or if Zelensky is bad, Putin must be good.

There is a saying, you know. Two wrongs don't make a right.

I rebuked Vladimir Moss and Hans Zimmerman, for being unbalanced, and incessantly criticizing Putin and his allies repeatedly, while saying nothing against the corrupt western leaders, who are just as culpable. Conversely, I have no qualms about rebuking those who incessantly criticize Zelensky, and try to justify or pass over Putin's war crimes.

The only TOC synod that would appeal to me, is one that recognizes that all major world leaders are corrupt agents, on the side of Antichrist, that there are no sincere, God-fearing, Christian world leaders of note, anywhere in the world, to be found. I have challenged people on multiple occasions over the years, to produce a name of even one, and I have yet to hear of even one.

A few folks tried to suggest Viktor Orbán, but he is a complete fraud, a fake Christian, just like Putin is a complete fake. Putin has been groomed his entire life to be president of the RF, just like Trump has also been groomed from his youth by the same Judaeo-Masonic cabal.

[Barbara]

Wow !!!
I agree about Lavrov's shirt at the 2025 Summit. I wondered WHY he chose to wear THAT ?

I remember seeing that immediately, in Russia, such shirts immediately sold out. ????
Otherwise, he seems a good statesman.

About the US politics, I agree about the deliberate grooming and installation of these people's choice. Clinton was a nobody [governor of Arkansas, an insignificant state] but somehow was invited to attend a Bilderburger meeting. He caught the eye of some of these people who chose him for a future president. UGHHHH !!!

Notice that D-R-D-R-D-R looks look DREADful or Dreadful Reader, whatever that may mean. DRD =DREAD and RDR = Reader
[Am i getting better at this ?!]

What do you think will happen NEXT time ? Some Democrat according to your schematic. Will it be K. Harris ? Or someone else ???

Larry Johnson : I don't know anything about him. Why did he leave the CIA ? What dept was he in ? Was he in disagreement with them ? None of this is clear to me. So he went to Russia 7 times in 2+ years ? Wow. What did he do over there ?
All THIS needs to be examined before we can discern more about the Aloha Surfer.
He is not a Christian, you say. What religion IS he ? A member of a cult ?

This thread is about Russia, so we will return to that after you answer.

[Cyprian]

Wow !!!
I agree about Lavrov's shirt at the 2025 Summit. I wondered WHY he chose to wear THAT ?

Barbara, you're not quite asking the question in the right way. You ask why "he chose" to wear that. More properly, you should be asking, why did Lavrov's handlers instruct him to go out and wear that?

Unfortunately, you are still beholden to the trappings of a false paradigm. It seems that you actually think only the leaders of the West (geographically speaking) are puppets, beholden to do the bidding of the secret society, which orders them to go out and do such and such.

You don't seem to be able to recognize that Putin and his regime are no different, and they are puppets who have been installed by the same secret society that installs the leaders who reside geographically in the West. Putin is of the same mindset and mentality, and comes from the same spiritual place as those he pretends to oppose "in the west".

So, I must reiterate, even though the mainstream pundits (i.e. liars and propagandists) speak of Putin as being in opposition to the West, in reality, Putin is another Westerner just like those he pretends to oppose. He may reside geographically further to the east, but he is still a puppet and instrument of the West. He is a "Western" leader, and he has been groomed in the same fashion as the leaders of the West.

Otherwise, he seems a good statesman.

How can he be a good statesman, when he is going all over the world defending an immoral and unjust war? Just because God is allowing Putin's forces to punish Ukraine for her sins, does not mean the instrument of God's punishment is necessarily righteous. Oftentimes God temporarily makes use of the wicked and unbelievers to punish His people, but afterwards executes judgment and punishment against the instruments of his punishment. I recommend reading The Prologue from Ohrid May 13 homily about this, "About how God uses the unbelievers in order to punish the believers." Of course, in other instances, God allows the unbelievers and wicked to fight amongst themselves against other unbelievers.

About the US politics, I agree about the deliberate grooming and installation of these people's choice. Clinton was a nobody [governor of Arkansas, an insignificant state] but somehow was invited to attend a Bilderburger meeting. He caught the eye of some of these people who chose him for a future president. UGHHHH !!!

Once again, I must reiterate that that secret society which rules over the world, is proactive, and not reactive. They do not wait until the last minute. They have no need to wait until someone grows to adulthood and "catches their eye" to select them for grooming. To what purpose? These politicians are simply puppets, who go out and do what they're told, so they do not need to be remarkably gifted or even very charismatic.

Let's take Putin, for example. He is somewhat short, mostly balding, with beady eyes. He's no JFK Jr. He does come across as clever and intelligent, however. Trump is fat and dumpy, has awful looking orange skin, and doesn't come across as all that intelligent or learned.

Do you see that being particularly handsome or intelligent is not a requirement to be a key world leader? There are plenty of unattractive presidents and prime ministers, and some come across as being not very intelligent either.

So, why would they need to wait for someone to catch their eye? They don't. The secret society decides (several decades in advance) what they intend to implement during a particular future administration, they create a framework, selecting themes, names, dates, places, etc., and after they have this all worked out, and have written a complete script, then they go about creating the actors who will fill the role. They don't wait until later, hoping someone will come along with the right name and birthday to suit their needs, they actually make sure to create a person with the right name and birthday from the start.

Like I said, the secret society long before Diana was born had decided they wanted someone with the name Diana to be the mother of Antichrist, because Diana is a goddess (demon rather) revered all over the world by many different cultures, and her mythology has certain qualities and characteristics that are relevant, like being a virgin, for instance. Of course, there are a few other virgin goddesses, like Athena/Minerva and Hestia/Vesta for example. But Artemis/Diana has certain aspects to her cult that seem particularly relevant to bringing forth the Antichrist, such as being a fertility goddess associated with childbirth and such. Also, being associated with the moon seems far more important than being associated with the hearth and the home, like with Hestia.

Please understand, that the conception, birth, and rearing of the Antichrist, is not going to just be some random or accidental event, not some average 16-year-old farm girl named Bobby Sue in Iowa who, being overcome by her passions after a Friday night football game, frolics in a cornfield with Billy Joe. No! This happens millions of times all over the world, and is not unusual or out of the ordinary.

When the 10th century monk Adso of Montier-En-Der writes:

"The Antichrist will have magicians, enchanters, diviners, and wizards who at the devil's bidding will rear him and instruct him in every evil, error, and wicked art. Evil spirits will be his leaders, his constant associates, and inseparable companions."

What are we to take from this, but to understand that there will be a sophisticated network—prepared and positioned in advance—ready and waiting to welcome the Antichrist into the world in accordance with a great deal of foresight and planning.

Did the Lord Jesus Christ and the Forerunner just come into the world randomly? Of course not! The dates of the conceptions and births of Christ and St. John the Baptist were divinely forechosen by the inscrutable wisdom and providence of God, to mark the four seasons. Christ's holy conception occurred at the time of the spring equinox, and the Forerunner's conception was six months prior, at the time of the autumnal equinox. Christ was born at the time of the winter solstice, and the Forerunner St. John at the time of the summer solstice.

Since Antichrist strives to imitate Christ in all things, the conception and birth of the Antichrist (and his forerunner also, the false prophet), will not occur on simply any old random day, but will be the product of meticulous planning and foresight.

It's safe to assume that the secret society will take note of the alignment of the stars and planets, and a whole host of other factors will enter into their decision making process in order to decide which date will be deemed most auspicious.

With the advent of diabolical technologies like IVF, and the ability to freeze eggs and embryos and such, it is not that hard to imagine that they can easily choose the precise date and time of conception, and with drugs that induce labor, or by means of a C-section, they can pretty much determine the exact time they want a birth to take place as well.

So, since they intend to accomplish all this with regards to the Antichrist, i.e. choose the precise date and time of his conception and birth in advance, and they plan to have a whole network of occultists in place to rear him and groom him in secret for his role, is it all that hard to imagine that the secret society would want to practice and perfect these techniques in advance?

So, the circumstances surrounding the conception and birth of the Antichrist will not necessarily be all that exceptional or extraordinary of a case, but simply the culmination and fruit of much trial and error until the methodologies are perfected.

So, the secret society will have practiced, many times, artificial conception, artificial selection and preservation of embryos, purposefully conceiving twins and triplets, and such, as well as having perfected and mastered the techniques of grooming a child from birth to mold and shape them to assume the role they want them to fulfill, all culminating in the bringing forth of the Antichrist.

So, folks would do well to recognize, that, at least in more recent generations, the secret society does in fact groom at least some politicians from birth. I have diligently sought out and acquired much evidence indicating this to be the case, and I have no doubt of it.

I have already written about Hollywood productions revealing the grooming of the Clintons by the secret society, long before Clinton was installed as governor of Arkansas. For example, Clinton wasn't installed as governor until 1979, but the TV series The Beverly Hillbillies is all about Billy and Hillary Clinton, and it began airing in 1962, when Billy Clinton was 16 years old. Bill used to be called Billy in his youth, and Hill is short for Hillary, hence Hill and Billy, i.e. Hill-billies. They strike it rich and go from Arkansas and move into a big white house mansion, to symbolically foretell the Clintons going from Arkansas to the White House mansion in D.C. I have detailed on several occasions how films and TV shows featuring a large white house (mansion), are used to reveal who the secret society is grooming for the White House. I won't delve into it right now.

What do you think will happen NEXT time ? Some Democrat according to your schematic. Will it be K. Harris ? Or someone else ???

Honestly, what difference would it make? Kamala is an agent of theirs, and so is Rubio, and Vance and the rest, so do you see how it doesn't matter? All the presidents in our lifetime (and even before that) have been agents of the secret society, so the problem is not one particular personality or another, but the entire system is fraudulent and subverted. The world would not suddenly experience nirvana if such and such leader dropped dead tomorrow. If Putin or Zelensky were to suddenly drop dead, it wouldn't change anything in any meaningful sense. It would simply be a case of next man up. The secret society would simply replace one puppet with another like him.

Larry Johnson : I don't know anything about him. Why did he leave the CIA ? What dept was he in ? Was he in disagreement with them ? None of this is clear to me. So he went to Russia 7 times in 2+ years ? Wow. What did he do over there ?
All THIS needs to be examined before we can discern more about the Aloha Surfer.
He is not a Christian, you say. What religion IS he ? A member of a cult ?

This thread is about Russia, so we will return to that after you answer.

What difference does it make why he left the CIA? Does the CIA have any credibility in your eyes? Is being an alumnus of the CIA something to be proud of, or rather ashamed of? Do you actually have any respect for the U.S. intelligence agencies?

It's obvious to me that he's not a Christian, because when I listened to him to hear what he had to say, he never talked like a Christian. It's obvious that Christianity plays no role in his life, or in his "expert" analysis. He comes across as completely secular. Even if he did claim to be a Christian, it wouldn't make any difference. After all, his cohorts Alexander Mercouris and Alex Christoforou make a flimsy pretense of being Greek Orthodox Christians, but they are liars also, and cannot be taken seriously as real Christians.

This is what Mercouris stated at the beginning of one of his programs:

"Today is the 14th of July, Bastille Day. An important—in fact the most important—state holiday in France. Can I—and in effect France's national day. May I take this opportunity to congratulate all the people in France on this day. The day which essentially marked the start of the French Revolution of 1789. Perhaps one of the greatest, most important events in world history, and one which despite its tumultuous history, I myself firmly believe moved forward the progress of France, and of Europe, and of all humanity, decisively further in a democratic direction. So, my congratulations to the people of France, to the people—the French people—who watch these programs on today's uh on today's day, the 14th of July."

A complete idiot! No Orthodox Christian should ever be celebrating and offering congratulations on Bastille Day for the French Revolution! It shows he is totally incompetent and his worldview is completely warped and not Orthodox. So, of course I don't listen to him anymore, just like I haven't listened to the nonsense of the Putin-promoting propagandist Larry Johnson in quite a while either.

Just like no sincere and serious Orthodox Christian should be stupid enough to be taken in by that fraud Putin, who laid flowers at the mausoleum of one of the bloodiest communist mass-murders in history, Ho Chi Minh.

How dare you defend someone like that!? What is your excuse for still supporting him after I showed you that? Go ahead, mount a defense. Tell the forum why we should have the warm and fuzzies for Putin, who venerates one of the greatest communist mass-murderers in history, only surpassed by a very few, like Stalin.

I dealt with a few idiots on my Facebook, who thought they could be Orthodox and defend Hitler.

The world has truly gone mad. Where have all the normal, clear thinking people gone? Perhaps there are still some out there, only they are wise enough to avoid social media and the Internet, so they are simply unknown to us.

[Barbara]

I didn't have time to read this the other day, Cyprian. Very interesting indeed, of course.

Now why do you say that about Ho Chi Minh ? We all KNOW he was very bad, but a huge mass>>> ? Why ? I don't know much about the Vietnam War except that everyone else was against it and I was in favor of stopping Communism ! My whole family and best friend and her family also the same, but no one ELSE we knew thought like that.
The details I never researched, but the principle I would defend of trying to stop Communism.

However, the war, I know, was badly conducted and probably taken over by the military-industrial complex so it was not arranged to WIN it but just prolong it ? Is that what YOU would analyze ?

As for flowers on that man's grave, yes, I don't agree with that either
But Putin puts flowers everywhere, so he probably felt he HAD TO go thru with that.

Every woman who meets him, he presents a bouquet to : foreign women leaders, Maria Zakharova on her recent birthday, Russian women notable personalities, etc. It's his absolute standard mode.