Bishop Kyrill solemnly promised me he would never 
serve with the Serbs, but at the first opportunity 
after his taking over the San Francisco diocese, he 
served with Bishop Jovan of the Serbian Patriarchate. 
This occurred this summer (2000). I have known about 
and been distressed over serving with the Serbs for 
years, but when Bishop Kyrill "went over" to the 
"other side," I concluded that I no longer had an 
excuse for postponing breaking with ROCOR... 
Bishop Kyrill even sent me a leter in June of 
this year stating Papist ideas outright. He said that 
the Holy Spirit is GUARANTEED to speak the truth when 
the bishops meet in council, but that a priest and his 
flock should not discuss dogmatic and canonical 
questions, because that falls under he purview of the 
synod alone. He told me to put aside my canonical and 
dogmatic questions because "Trust in your God-given 
bishops and attention to your pastoral duties will 
lead you safely to the haven of salvation." In 
December of last year I had begged Bishop Kyrill to 
recognize that ROCOR must establish a tenable 
ecclesiology on the basis of the canonical and 
dogmatic traditions of the Churcch. He answered that 
he neither knew nor cared to know about such 
things.---from a letter to me by a priest who left 
ROCOR, September 15, 2000.
From a priest that left ROCOR
Moderator: Mark Templet
From a priest that left ROCOR
Why a ROCOR priest left part 1
The ROCOR hierarchs serve with the Serbian 
Patriarchate and commemorate the Patriarch of 
Jerusalem. Even if Serbia and Jerusalem now and then 
shove her away for their own political ends, the ROCOR 
bishops run back to them as soon as possible. In other 
words, if ROCOR is in any way separate from these 
ecumenist hierarchies, it is not from conviction: they 
are "distanced" by virtue of political pressures, but 
they are definitely in communion and regard these 
ecumenists as Orthodox. They are thus in communion 
with heretics...I could no longer in conscience 
commemorate bishops who serve with heretics. Bishop 
Kyrill solemnly promised me he would never do this, 
but at the first opportunity after his taking over the 
San Francisco diocese, he served with Bishop Jovan of 
the Serbian Patriarchate. This occurred this summer 
(2000). I have known about and been distressed over 
serving with the Serbs for years, but when Bishop 
Kyrill "went over" to the "other side," I concluded 
that I no longer had an excuse for postponing breaking 
with ROCOR.
ROCOR not only communes with heretics, but it 
teaches heresy...Point Five of the June 1994 
resolution concerning Kyprian is that his teaching 
adheres precisely to the position of ROCOR regarding 
grace among heretics. Thus ROCOR has adopted a 
blatant ecclesiological heresy...Now, ROCOR actually 
never had said that the ecumenists lack grace, UNLESS 
you read the 1983 anathema clearly and simply for what 
it says---which the official ROCOR interpretation does 
NOT. This acceptance of the Kyprianite theory is 
consistent with Metropolitan Vitaly's 
re-interpretation of the 1983 anathema as an "idea" 
that others are invited to "consider," but not as an 
act of the Holy Spirit proclaiming that the ecumenists 
have cut themselves off from the Church.
Since the publication of the pro-MP encyclical of 
the November 1994 Lesna Sobor, ROCOR has steadfastly 
refused to say that the Moscow Patriarchate is in 
heresy or is in schism. The most recent ROCOR 
statement, the March 2000 "Statement to the Russian 
Orthodox People" states flatly that the ROCOR refuses 
to apply the term "schism" to the MP. This is treason 
to the True Church of Russia, which is the Catacomb 
Church. If the MP is a church, then heresy, apostasy, 
theomachism, and schism are compatible with being in 
the Church. This is an application of Kyprianism. I 
believe it is not coincidental that Archbishop Mark's 
new ecclesiological position on the MP bcame the ROCOR 
position: he is the author of the November 1994 
encyclical, which designates the MP as a "living part 
of the Russian Church"---just months after the 
acceptance of Kyprian's teaching.
ROCOR no longer has a canonical foundation for 
activity in Russia, since it purposely drove away the 
True Church in Russia and most of the Catacomb Church, 
as well as Archbishop Valentin and those with him. It 
no longer has a canonical foundation for its separate 
existence in the Diaspora, because its only--and very 
good, indeed, ESSENTIAL---reason for being a separate 
juridiction was that it was Orthodox and the various 
other jurisdictions were NOT. If, however, its only 
reason to exist is to be "Russian" and provide a haven 
for Russians outside Russia, this is not a valid 
reason. According to Metropolitan Vitalty's Nativity 
Epistle of 1986, the anathema against ecumenism is a 
"warning" or an idea that ROCOR invites other 
"Orthodox" to consider; it actually anathematizes NO 
ONE. Then why be separate? Go back to Russia or 
place yourselves under the previously established 
"Orthodox" hierarchies in the countries of your 
residence. Of course, contrary to Metropolitan 
Vitalty's interpretation, the anathema of 1983 really 
IS an anathema, and ROCOR falls under it, because it 
communes with the ecumenist heretics.
Part 2
Besides these specific betrayals of Christ, ROCOR 
has fallen into the spirit of the age, which is 
characterized by indifference to Truth itself---the 
denial of or lukewarmness to the very existence of 
objective reality, much less revealed truth. I came to 
this conclusion gradually, based on various kinds of 
evidence:
1) The enyclical of 1994, Archbishop Mark's 
agreement with the MP in December of 1997, and the 
"Statement to the Russian Orthodox People" of March 
2000 are all couched in ecclesiastical Newspeak, not 
the plain words of the Fathers. I have pointed this 
out to various ROCOR people, and they don't even know 
what I'm talking about. If they can't recognize 
doubletalk, then they themselves have the double mind. 
These documents were all purposely intended to be 
ambivalent. This is a sign of the spirit of 
antichrist...This new method of "communicating" with 
the flock warned me that ROCOR had fallen away.
2) I have had many conversations with 
"conserative" ROCOR clergy like Bishops Kyrill and Fr 
Peter Perekrestov, and their only response to my 
specific dogmatic or canonical questions has consisted 
of sound bytes like "These things aren't black and 
white" and "Things will work themselves out." I have quoted the canons 
and asked for a reasoned defense of ROCOR's positions, 
e.g., communion with the Serbian Patriarchate, and I 
have been told that I "think like a Roman Catholic" 
and I am a "legalist" and that the higher spiritual 
understanding of the "core group" Russians in ROCOR 
transcends simple adherence to the canons. I 
concluded that I was not not dealing with rational 
men, but with an irrational power structure which 
claimed exemption from the Church's traditional 
guidelines and even from rational conversation. This 
is akin to Papism.
3)Bishop Kyrill even sent me a letter in June of 
this year stating Papist ideas outright. He said that 
the Holy Spirit is GUARANTEED to speak the truth when 
the bishops meet in council, but that a priest and his 
flock should not discuss dogmatic and canonical 
questions, because that falls under the purview of the 
synod alone. He told me to put aside my canonical and 
dogmatic questions, because "trust in your God-given 
bishops and attention to your pastoral duties will 
lead you safely to the haven of salvation." In 
December of last year I had begged Bihsop Kyrill to 
recognize that ROCOR must establish a tenable 
ecclesiology on the basis of the canonical and 
dogmatic traditions of the church. He answered that 
he neither knew nor cared about such things.
4) Within my own soul I could see clearly that I 
was falling into indifference, in order to numb the 
pain of being with these men. I either had to numb my 
conscience and fit in, or get out. Believe me, I 
tried to fit in for a long time; I even tried to FORCE 
myself to be one of the boys. I almost lost my soul 
in the process. I came very close to despair. Since I 
have gotten out of that miasma of doubletalk, 
indifference, and confusion, I have been at peace.
Part 3
The big picture is this: all of the historical 
Orthodox institutions, all the state-recognized 
churches, are inextricably bound up in the great web 
of apostasy, which precedes the coming of antichrist. 
ROCOR for years has refused to come down clearly on 
the side of the True Orthodox, who have clearly and 
decisively broken on the ontological level with the 
apostates by not communing with them AND by stating 
clearly that they are NOT churches, NOT in the Church. 
ROCOR's refusal to make a like clean confession of 
faith has finally led into outright ecclesiological 
error: the positing of the co-existence of Orthodox 
and known unrepentant heretics IN THE CHURCH. This is 
not only the sense of ecumenism, but a direct assault 
on objective truth and rationality itself.
About the question of a local church (ROCOR) 
anathematizing heretics. Certainly in the 3 centuries 
before there were ecumenical councils and in the 12 
centuries since the last ecumenical council, the 
Church HAS cast out heretics. Without such an 
ability, she could not protect herself from heresy. A 
local church or several local churches may make a 
pronouncement, and then it is accepted by the 
conscience of the Church. When you are in the middle 
of that process, it is your DUTY to follow what you 
believe to be the conscience of the Church. We are not 
"off the hook" until there is a general council of 
some kind: everyone is required to stand for the 
truth.
Fr Seraphim died in 1982, a full decade before he 
knew the full extent of the MP's fall into heresy and 
apostasy. Now that we know, would Fr Seraphim be part 
of the pro-MP camp? I doubt it, but who knows? Good 
men, even righteous men, are not infallible. One of 
Fr Seraphim's leading proteges, Fr Alexey Young (now 
Hieromonk Ambrose) is telling everyone to stay in 
ROCOR, and that the October 2000 Sobor reaffirmed 
ROCOR's traditional position. Everyone who is staying 
in ROCOR is losing his mind rapidly: I know exactly 
what's going on with them, because I almost, within a 
hair's breadth away, gave up my rationality and 
conscience in order to stay in. My friend, I almost 
lost my soul over this. I knew this time last year 
that I must get out, that ROCOR was no longer the 
historical ongoing Church of Russia, and I compromised 
my conscience for months. When I finally left, I was 
spiritually and psychologicaly exhautsed and 
debilitated. It's a terrible thing to lie to yourself; 
it does really bad things to your soul.
Part 4
The Serbian Patriarchate, the ROCOR, and the MP, 
along with the conservative faction in the state 
church of Greece are coalescing into a "conservative 
option" wing of World Orthodoxy. You want uncut 
services, long beards, riassas, prayer ropes, and 
"elders"---fine, join up with these guys on the right 
over here. You want cigar-smoking bishops, short 
services, and a Protestant-style---fine, here are our 
"wares" for sale on the left over there. Take your 
pick...so long as you are part of "Official 
'Orthodoxy'." This is a terrible terrible deception, 
and most everyone, almost everyone is going to fall 
for it sooner or later. I hope I'm not one of them.
Everyone in ROCOR should have taken a clear 
ecclesiological stance years ago, They did not; only 
a tiny few in ROCOR ever had a clear idea of what had 
to be done. Even Metropolitan Philaret would not risk 
breaking up the synod by attempting to get a conciliar 
decision to order Anthony of Geneva, for example, to 
stop serving with and communing ecumenists, even after 
the 1983 anathema. ROCOR generated some of the most 
important ecclesiological documents we have available 
in English, but as a jurisdiction it could not, in the 
last analysis, effectively preserve its Orthodoxy. We 
have to learn from its good features---liturgics, 
instructions in piety, good examples of virtue, and 
the good ecclesilogical documents---and separate 
ourselves from the bad: the failure to witness to 
dogmatic purity and the failure to flee the apostasy 
of the age by separating decisively from the rotten 
carcass of "Christendom."
What the Platina-ites did---publishing Fr 
Seraphim's opinion against SCOBA and then themselves 
joining SCOBA---is EXACTLY the method of antichrist: 
to say the truth, and then to say or do something the 
opposite of the truth, with a straight face. This is 
now what the ROCOR is doing: "We're against ecumenism, 
rah rah rah...By the way, let's serve with ecumenists, 
rah rah rah."
Of course, Fr Seraphim DID have a position: in a 
letter to Fr Alexey Young, which he wrote before his 
ordination in 1978...,a copy of which I was handed by 
Fr Alexey in 1987, he wrote that "We do not serve with 
any non-Synod (i.e., ROCOR) jurisdiction." It was that 
simple.
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