Is the TOC-Kirykos Iconoclastic?

[Justice]

Look at the TOC-Kirykos's take on the 1995 schism. It appears that Metropolitan Kirykos believes that the "New Testament Trinity" is a Latin innovation.

http://genuineorthodoxchurch.com/1995schism.htm

[Maria]

Look at the TOC-Kirykos's take on the 1995 schism. It appears that Metropolitan Kirykos believes that the "New Testament Trinity" is a Latin innovation.

http://genuineorthodoxchurch.com/1995schism.htm

Remember that St. Matthew had a copy of that "New Testament Trinity" in his cell.
Is this where the God the Father is portrayed as an Old Man?

Stay away from Monk Kirykos. It seems that this schismatic group is producing one strange teaching after another.

One of Monk Kirykos' strange teachings is that laity (never the clergy) should fast and abstain during the entire week before they receive Holy Communion even during Pascha time (from Pascha to the Ascension). Of course, even this requirement is not always enforced, especially if a family lives a long distance from a church.

This practice of fasting was started by old Greek women who taught during the Ottoman persecution when hieromonks would only visit villages about once or twice a year. Thus, everyone fasted for the entire prior week, made their confessions, and received Communion at the Divine Liturgy. The so-called "Mass Priests," local uneducated married farmer priests, could not hear confessions or distribute Holy Communion. Neither could they baptize infants, marry couples, or conduct funeral services. Therefore, whenever a hieromonk visited a village, his week was spent baptizing and chrismating babies, marrying couples, hearing confessions, communing, anointing the sick, and conducting funerals.

Another strange teaching is that the laity (never the clergy) should really not receive Holy Communion on Sundays, instead they should receive communion only on Saturdays.

Then they have strange beliefs regarding icons and the Church as Eternal.

[Justice]

Look at the TOC-Kirykos's take on the 1995 schism. It appears that Metropolitan Kirykos believes that the "New Testament Trinity" is a Latin innovation.

http://genuineorthodoxchurch.com/1995schism.htm

Remember that St. Matthew had a copy of that "New Testament Trinity" in his cell.
Is this where the God the Father is portrayed as an Old Man?

Stay away from Monk Kirykos. It seems that this schismatic group is producing one strange teaching after another.

One of Monk Kirykos' strange teachings is that laity (never the clergy) should fast and abstain during the entire week before they receive Holy Communion even during Pascha time (from Pascha to the Ascension). Of course, even this requirement is not always enforced, especially if a family lives a long distance from a church.

This practice of fasting was started by old Greek women who taught during the Ottoman persecution when hieromonks would only visit villages about once or twice a year. Thus, everyone fasted for the entire prior week, made their confessions, and received Communion at the Divine Liturgy. The so-called "Mass Priests," local uneducated married farmer priests, could not hear confessions or distribute Holy Communion. Neither could they baptize infants, marry couples, or conduct funeral services. Therefore, whenever a hieromonk visited a village, his week was spent baptizing and chrismating babies, marrying couples, hearing confessions, communing, anointing the sick, and conducting funerals.

Another strange teaching is that the laity (never the clergy) should really not receive Holy Communion on Sundays, instead they should receive communion only on Saturdays.

Then they have strange beliefs regarding icons and the Church as Eternal.

Why was there a schism? what caused Met. Kirykos to break of? Is there a thread on this?

[Maria]

Look at the TOC-Kirykos's take on the 1995 schism. It appears that Metropolitan Kirykos believes that the "New Testament Trinity" is a Latin innovation.

http://genuineorthodoxchurch.com/1995schism.htm

Remember that St. Matthew had a copy of that "New Testament Trinity" in his cell.
Is this where the God the Father is portrayed as an Old Man?

Stay away from Monk Kirykos. It seems that this schismatic group is producing one strange teaching after another.

One of Monk Kirykos' strange teachings is that laity (never the clergy) should fast and abstain during the entire week before they receive Holy Communion even during Pascha time (from Pascha to the Ascension). Of course, even this requirement is not always enforced, especially if a family lives a long distance from a church.

This practice of fasting was started by old Greek women who taught during the Ottoman persecution when hieromonks would only visit villages about once or twice a year. Thus, everyone fasted for the entire prior week, made their confessions, and received Communion at the Divine Liturgy. The so-called "Mass Priests," local uneducated married farmer priests, could not hear confessions or distribute Holy Communion. Neither could they baptize infants, marry couples, or conduct funeral services. Therefore, whenever a hieromonk visited a village, his week was spent baptizing and chrismating babies, marrying couples, hearing confessions, communing, anointing the sick, and conducting funerals.

Another strange teaching is that the laity (never the clergy) should really not receive Holy Communion on Sundays, instead they should receive communion only on Saturdays.

Then they have strange beliefs regarding icons and the Church as Eternal.

Why was there a schism? what caused Met. Kirykos to break of? Is there a thread on this?

We had a thread on this which became quite uncivil, so it was moved into the private Mod Forum.

If you go to Father Stephen's website at http://www.orthodox-christianity.net, you will see several encyclicals written by the GOC synod in which Monk Kirykos was addressed and urged to repent. He did not. Instead, he went to Romania and asked the Romanian Old Orthodox Bishops to help him establish a synod. This is exactly what Bishop Agafangel of Russia did to start his ROCOR group as he also asked the SiR to help him establish a synod.

[Justice]

Remember that St. Matthew had a copy of that "New Testament Trinity" in his cell.
Is this where the God the Father is portrayed as an Old Man?

Stay away from Monk Kirykos. It seems that this schismatic group is producing one strange teaching after another.

One of Monk Kirykos' strange teachings is that laity (never the clergy) should fast and abstain during the entire week before they receive Holy Communion even during Pascha time (from Pascha to the Ascension). Of course, even this requirement is not always enforced, especially if a family lives a long distance from a church.

This practice of fasting was started by old Greek women who taught during the Ottoman persecution when hieromonks would only visit villages about once or twice a year. Thus, everyone fasted for the entire prior week, made their confessions, and received Communion at the Divine Liturgy. The so-called "Mass Priests," local uneducated married farmer priests, could not hear confessions or distribute Holy Communion. Neither could they baptize infants, marry couples, or conduct funeral services. Therefore, whenever a hieromonk visited a village, his week was spent baptizing and chrismating babies, marrying couples, hearing confessions, communing, anointing the sick, and conducting funerals.

Another strange teaching is that the laity (never the clergy) should really not receive Holy Communion on Sundays, instead they should receive communion only on Saturdays.

Then they have strange beliefs regarding icons and the Church as Eternal.

Why was there a schism? what caused Met. Kirykos to break of? Is there a thread on this?

We had a thread on this which became quite uncivil, so it was moved into the private Mod Forum.

If you go to Father Stephen's website at http://www.orthodox-christianity.net, you will see several encyclicals written by the GOC synod in which Monk Kirykos was addressed and urged to repent. He did not. Instead, he went to Romania and asked the Romanian Old Orthodox Bishops to help him establish a synod. This is exactly what Bishop Agafangel of Russia did to start his ROCOR group as he also asked the SiR to help him establish a synod.

I see. Thank you for this information Maria.

[Orthodox in Michigan]

Why was there a schism? what caused Met. Kirykos to break of? Is there a thread on this?

We had a thread on this which became quite uncivil, so it was moved into the private Mod Forum.

If you go to Father Stephen's website at http://www.orthodox.christianity.net, you will see several encyclicals written by the GOC synod in which Monk Kirykos was addressed and urged to repent. He did not. Instead, he went to Romania and asked the Romanian Old Orthodox Bishops to help him establish a synod. This is exactly what Bishop Agafangel of Russia did to start his ROCOR group as he also asked the SiR to help him establish a synod.

I see. Thank you for this information Maria.

This was a topic of discussion where can I see it on the what fourm ?
I am new to finding out about the goc - mathew
I know very little about the split about them I also find it very hard to get a good view and the mind set of the spliting faction.

[Orthodox in Michigan]

How many mathewite factions groups are there today?