GOC factions - Why are there no communications between bishops?

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GOC factions - Why are there no communications between bishops?

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... I see very little effort being made by all these bishops at basic dialogue and that is the most disturbing thing. No bishop has to pray together or concelebrate with those with whom he disagrees, but God demands communication. Even if a bishop feels his church under his synod's command to be the only church in the world, then it behooves them to treat all others as pagans, apostates and heretics and convert them. Christ said to convert and baptize all nations. Instead all I see is bishops hunkering down with their small flocks and waiting for the end. To convert someone one must communicate, answer questions and show basic human decency.

It would have been so easy for the early Church to confine itself to converting the Jews only at most and hunkering down and waiting for Christ to return in their lifetimes. After all most of them felt that Christ would be back in their lifetimes. Instead they did the opposite and with an intense effort.

With modern communication available to all- there is almost no effort at any communication by our bishops outside their Synods.

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jdigrande wrote:

With modern communication available to all- there is almost no effort at any communication by our bishops outside their Synods.

You know this how?

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Bishop_Irineos wrote:
jdigrande wrote:

With modern communication available to all- there is almost no effort at any communication by our bishops outside their Synods.

You know this how?

There is communication between bishops outside their synods.

For example, Monk Kirykos meets regularly with our priests and bishops in the GOC under Archbishop Stephanos. Some of our priests and bishops are friends with clergy from HOCNA and also the clergy under Archbishop Kallinikos. Sometimes they will meet in the homes of wealthy laity who might host a dinner party for the clergy.

You must know that when Monk Kirykos schismed from the original synod of St. Matthew, it was awful. He split up parishes and homes with one spouse remaining with the GOC under Archbishop Stephanos while the other spouse associated with Monk Kirykos. Siblings were also divided and still are. This is why these families host dinner parties hoping that things will be reconciled sooner not later.

At the ordination of a new bishop for the GOC under Archbishop Stephanos back in 2016, a bishop under Archbishop Kallinikos came to that ordination and chatted with the bishops under Archbishop Stephanos. On the contrary, laity under Monk Kirykos protested that ordination by holding public demonstrations. Sometimes the laity cause more problems.

At Met. Anthony's funeral in New York, there were various clergy members who paid their final respect. These included HOCNA, clergy from Archbishop Kallinikos, and other synods.

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Maria wrote:
Bishop_Irineos wrote:
jdigrande wrote:

With modern communication available to all- there is almost no effort at any communication by our bishops outside their Synods.

You know this how?

You must know that when Monk Kirykos schismed from the original synod of St. Matthew, it was awful. He split up parishes and homes with one spouse remaining with the GOC under Archbishop Stephanos while the other spouse associated with Monk Kirykos. Siblings were also divided and still are. This is why these families host dinner parties hoping that things will be reconciled sooner not later.

Is your synod getting closer to reconciling with Met. Kirykos's synod?

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Justice wrote:
Maria wrote:
Bishop_Irineos wrote:

You know this how?

You must know that when Monk Kirykos schismed from the original synod of St. Matthew, it was awful. He split up parishes and homes with one spouse remaining with the GOC under Archbishop Stephanos while the other spouse associated with Monk Kirykos. Siblings were also divided and still are. This is why these families host dinner parties hoping that things will be reconciled sooner not later.

Is your synod getting closer to reconciling with Met. Kirykos's synod?

No. Monk Kirykos persists in his heresies and will not renounce them.
He also persists in the anti-Kollyvades belief that laity should receive Communion infrequently and certainly not on Sundays. He has been very divisive in encouraging his laity to stage demonstrations.

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Maria wrote:

I have corrected the link to Father Stephen Fraser's website.

It is http://www.orthodox-christianity.net

Father said that he will be updating the website hopefully this coming week.

I look forward to it. :D

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A few months ago, the GOC-S issued a document that stated the rumors of a union with the GOC-K were false.

http://nftu.net/main-matthewite-synod-i ... claration/

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