OCA Receives uniate Monastery

Mor Ephrem · Post by **Mor Ephrem** » Tue 2 December 2003 3:40 pm

OrthodoxyOrDeath wrote:
The OCA in Chicago received a Monophysite "deacon" recently as a "jurisdiction adjustment", as if he was a deacon.

Source?

OrthodoxyOrDeath · Tue 2 December 2003 10:06 pm

I know a few OCA priests in the area who I have contacts with.

Mor Ephrem · Post by **Mor Ephrem** » Wed 3 December 2003 11:19 pm

But that doesn't mean anything to me, to be honest with you, because its hearsay unless proven some other way. Who is this deacon? Where did he come from? Where is he stationed now? Which bishop accepted him? Where? When?

I'm not taking this opportunity to come out and say I don't believe you. I have not heard of this yet, and I'm just curious.

OrthodoxyOrDeath · Post by **OrthodoxyOrDeath** » Thu 4 December 2003 8:54 am

Mor Ephrem,

Fair questions and I can certainly sympathize with your skepticism. And rest assured, I would never say something like this to support a broader discussion.

Nevski · Post by **Nevski** » Thu 4 December 2003 10:29 am

OrthodoxyOrDeath wrote:
Mor Ephrem,

Fair questions and I can certainly sympathize with your skepticism. And rest assured, I would never say something like this to support a broader discussion.

So are you prepared now to share the source Mor Ephrem asked you for?

OrthodoxyOrDeath · Thu 4 December 2003 12:16 pm

Nevski,

Yes, the source is an OCA priest I know and I will not be providing personal information on the internet. Perhaps if this was relative to a very important conversation with who I believed were sincere inquirers I would go through the trouble of coordinating some sort of a dialog or information exchange with this priest.

But as it is, I sense no sincerity, so I will leave it up to you to write Bishop Job, or whoever, and find out through official channels since that is all you would probably accept in the end anyway. You might also ask if the OCA believes the Monophysites have a real priesthood.

Nevski · Post by **Nevski** » Thu 4 December 2003 1:52 pm

OrthodoxyOrDeath wrote:
Nevski,

Yes, the source is an OCA priest I know and I will not be providing personal information on the internet. Perhaps if this was relative to a very important conversation with who I believed were sincere inquirers I would go through the trouble of coordinating some sort of a dialog or information exchange with this priest.

But as it is, I sense no sincerity, so I will leave it up to you to write Bishop Job, or whoever, and find out through official channels since that is all you would probably accept in the end anyway. You might also ask if the OCA believes the Monophysites have a real priesthood.

You made the allegation. The burden of proof is therefore upon you to provide it, not for me to go to Bishop Job or anyone else to dig it up.

It being the case that you are going to provide no answer, my response is to say, simply, that I don't believe you; that you are, in essense, bearing false witness.