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What Church are you either a member of or going to be joining?

ROCOR/ROCA

16
43%

HOCNA

0
No votes

ROAC

4
11%

ROCiE

1
3%

GOC (Chrysostomos II)

3
8%

GOC (Lamia)

0
No votes

GOC (Mathewite)

0
No votes

GOC (Other)

0
No votes

TOC (Cyprianites)

1
3%

World Orthodoxy

5
14%

Heterodox

1
3%

Other (Please Explain)

6
16%
 
Total votes: 37

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Re: World Orthodoxy

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TomS wrote:

Aww c'mon. Don't you see the underlying message here? They list all these schismatic churches yet they don't want to list the churches that ARE NOT in schism?

ANd who are you to judge who is in schism? It looks to me like the poll gives you a choice between churches who are anti ecumenist (therefore nonschismatic) and the ecumenist
schismatic churches.
Just my 2 cents.
John

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Re: World Orthodoxy

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John the Russian wrote:
TomS wrote:

Aww c'mon. Don't you see the underlying message here? They list all these schismatic churches yet they don't want to list the churches that ARE NOT in schism?

And who are you to judge who is in schism? It looks to me like the poll gives you a choice between churches who are anti ecumenist (therefore nonschismatic) and the ecumenist
schismatic churches.
Just my 2 cents.
John

I am not judging who is in schism. The Ecumenical Patriarch of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church does that for me.

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There's the magic word ECUMENICAL. Translated (heretical).

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John the Russian wrote:

There's the magic word ECUMENICAL. Translated (heretical).

Only for people who do not understand the historical definition and context usage of the word "Ecumenical" in said title.

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Re: World Orthodoxy

Post by Daniel »

TomS wrote:
John the Russian wrote:
TomS wrote:

Aww c'mon. Don't you see the underlying message here? They list all these schismatic churches yet they don't want to list the churches that ARE NOT in schism?

And who are you to judge who is in schism? It looks to me like the poll gives you a choice between churches who are anti ecumenist (therefore nonschismatic) and the ecumenist
schismatic churches.
Just my 2 cents.
John

I am not judging who is in schism. The Ecumenical Patriarch of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church does that for me.

Bart can call everyone he wants to schismatics, but it's not his descision alone. He says groupA is schismatic but the rest of his synod says no, then which would they be, schismatic or no?

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TomS wrote:
John the Russian wrote:

There's the magic word ECUMENICAL. Translated (heretical).

Only for people who do not understand the historical definition and context usage of the word "Ecumenical" in said title.

I belive the historical meaning to be "for all those who are orthodox" I may be wrong. But if this is the case then he cannot make that claim since a heretic cannot be for anything orthodox in its true sense.

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TomS,

Don't you find it a bit strange how Bartholomew calls us schismatics and tries desperatley at every turn to evict our monks and marginalize us as much as possible, while at the same time, calls the grand-daddy of all heretics and the his body of followers "the other lung for which the Church of Christ breathes" and recognizes them as having Grace?

With such thinking, are you sure you want to follow him and his warped logic?

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