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From the GOA website...

An Orthodox Christian View of Non-Christian Religions

Whenever I have my moments of doubt as to how bad things really are with the ecumenists, I only need read what they actually write to be cured of such momentary sentimentality. :(

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Very disturbing.

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From the article:

"It is basic Christian doctrine that the Holy Spirit may act wherever and whenever. Presuming to constrain the activity of the Holy Spirit - to limit God Himself- is not the way. Orthodoxy recognizes and accepts the mandate to seek Truth and to follow the Holy Spirit wherever He leads, including in other religions or philosophies when his Truth is to be found there.


What? This is blasphemy! The Church teaches that there is only one way to truth and it is through Jesus Christ via the Orthodox Church!!
This sentence alone undermines the whole teaching of the Church!!

And also this:

"The pages that follow will explore a view of non-Chnistian religions from an Orthodox Christian perspective. This view holds firmly to the centrality of Christ, a doctrine which is not negotiable, yet acknowledges that salvation can be found outside Christianity. "

"Those who live in faith and virtue, though outside the Church, receive God's loving grace and salvation."


EXCUSE ME? So I should just become a Buddhist, because FAITH in Jesus Christ is not REQUIRED anymore?

How can there be any other "truths" in anything that is not Christian??!!!!

This is very disturbing

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I noticed a frequent reference to "Orthodox scholars" as the basis of what Orthodoxy teaches.

Does anybody else notice the vagueness of ecumenist presuppositions and the striking absence of references to the Holy Fathers? Not just with this article, but with everything.

Well ROCOR, welcome to the anti-church; but don't worry, its "canonical" because canonical really means BIG.

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How can there be any other "truths" in anything that is not Christian??!!!!

From the quote supplied previously, I don't follow your jump of logic. The quote from the article talked about "truths" in "other religions", not about "other truths". For instance, cannot we agree with the Dalai Lama that abortion and homosexual acts are wrong? I am not talking about embracing Buddhism because Christianity and Buddhism are incompatible. However, there can be some common ground for discussion.

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Very well moronikos. But exactly what does this have to do with following the "Holy Spirit", or whatever spirit, into other pagan religions? Yes, there are things the Branch Davidians taught that were correct - just as there were elements of truth in the devils trickery when he tempted Eve.

Yes we love those people, but we hate their faiths - the same way we love those in the hospital, but we absolutely hate the diseases that afflict them.

In fact, I would go so far as to say, that those who have replaced Christianity with sentimentalism and don't hate these peoples faith actually hate those people instead.

you said:

I am not talking about embracing Buddhism because Christianity and Buddhism are incompatible. However, there can be some common ground for discussion

What relationship does Christ have with Belial? What common ground is there? Yes, we can talk to them, but I would personaly never admit to any followers of non-Orthodox faiths that there is anything in common. There is nothing in common because Orthodoxy is not a composite of different truths which can stand independently; Orthodoxy is the fountain of truth and its only proper context.

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Well, I do think that sentence by the author was poorly worded, and I can scratch my head wondering what it was he was trying to convey. However, taking the rest of the article in context, I do not believe he was suggesting that folks convert to some other religion if the Holy Spirit is leading them.

The interpretation taken by some seems to be rather reactionary and something passionate, angry young men always looking to find fault tend to do.

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