ROAC: Tonsuring of Schema Monk Andrew

尼古拉前执事 · Thu 19 February 2004 7:52 pm

If it does not warrant investigation, then why ask 3rd parties about it???

bogoliubtsy · Post by **bogoliubtsy** » Thu 19 February 2004 8:13 pm

I'll tell ya what. When the ROAC posters and sympathizers here write to Patriarch Alexey and all of the bishops and priests they so often accuse of being soviet agents, working for the furthering of the "soviet church", I'll write to the new monk. Deal?

Anastasios · Post by **Anastasios** » Fri 20 February 2004 12:26 am

It doesn't matter if he was an Archpriest--you cannot just make someone a schemamonk on day 1. Levels of monasticism and levels of priesthood are irrelevant. Bishops are not all schemamonks, which would be the case if levels of priesthood had anything to do with levels of monasticism.

尼古拉前执事 · Fri 20 February 2004 12:33 am

anastasios wrote:
It doesn't matter if he was an Archpriest--you cannot just make someone a schemamonk on day 1. Levels of monasticism and levels of priesthood are irrelevant.

Could you quote the canon that says that? I did not see one.

Anastasios · Post by **Anastasios** » Fri 20 February 2004 1:02 pm

Nicholas,

It has nothing to do with canons. It has to do with the practice and tradition of the Church. The Orthodox Church just doesn't do that type of thing.

anastasios

Daniel · Post by **Daniel** » Fri 20 February 2004 4:05 pm

I thought at one time long, long ago a monk was just a monk. No levels or ranking to aspire to; no little schema, no big schema.

On the subject of the schema itself was it not a gift from an angel? And with the monastic life often called to angelic life, would it not stand to reason that all monks would be clothed in the schema?

I was told ( though actually haven't read specificly) that the Greeks don't have the same custom with the monastic 'levels' as the Russians do. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

bogoliubtsy · Post by **bogoliubtsy** » Fri 20 February 2004 4:11 pm

Daniel wrote:
I was told ( though actually haven't read specificly) that the Greeks don't have the same custom with the monastic 'levels' as the Russians do. Can anyone confirm or deny this?

My understanding is that in the Greek tradition the Great Schema does not require the same kind of withdrawl into solitude as it does in the Russian tradition.