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Waldemar
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Post by Waldemar »

"Remember that Elders, even after death, do not abandon their monasteries." - Elder Ambrose of Optina

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Saint Nektary was outspoken that the Living Church was indeed graceless. Regarding Metr. Sergius (AFTER his infamous declaration)the Saint said "Though he has sinned in much, he is still as the head of the Orthodox Church."

OrthodoxyOrDeath

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And there are sources which say otherwise.

If indeed he knowingly commemorated Sergius, and that is far from proven, he would be the first saint (and he is not a saint as far as I know) in the history of the Church (that I am aware of) who knowingly commemorated a fallen heirarch. Which is why I don't believe it.

Saint Basil the Great for instance, while still a priest, broke communion with his bishop because he signed the semi-Arian document of Constantinople. And for anyone who doesn't know, semi-arian doesn't mean the document was Arian, but only that it had some confusing statements that could be interpreted as Arian. And his example is of no less value today as it was then - that fanatic self-righteous sectarian Basil! :P

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OrthodoxyOrDeath wrote:

And there are sources which say otherwise.

If indeed he knowingly commemorated Sergius, and that is far from proven, he would be the first saint (and he is not a saint as far as I know) in the history of the Church (that I am aware of) who knowingly commemorated a fallen heirarch. Which is why I don't believe it.

Do you not accepted the new martyrs who commemorated Sergius?

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Lord Have Mercy!

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Post by OrthodoxyOrDeath »

Do you not accepted the new martyrs who commemorated Sergius?

I realize and accept that my brain doesn't always function these days as it once did, but how come they are martyrs if they commemorated the communists?

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Lord Have Mercy!

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