Holy Empires

Nektarios14 · Post by **Nektarios14** » Thu 17 June 2004 3:03 pm

I am trying to work at the Greek, my actual success though at speaking it is limited. Since I am so close to Saint Anthony's monastery I have forced myself to at least be able to understand a good amount of the church serivces. And if I do actually get to Agion Oros next year I'm hoping I can pick up the language from being immersed.

/\RT3|\/|0|\| · Post by **/\RT3|\/|0|\|** » Mon 21 June 2004 7:08 pm

Hi guys I'm am a MONARCHIST to the CORE and ALL Orthodox are supposed to be also, in the Old Testament once God alowed the jews to have a Monarchy thats it that was the final descission even if they said "oh we made a mistake" its to late that the only form of Holy Government God would alow, just as the jews were not alower to listen to the Ideas of the Gentiles (Non Jews) so are we the new Jews (Orthodox Christians) we are the new ISREAL, and just as the old Isreal wasn't supposed to listen to the ideas of the gentiles neigther are we, so communisim was a sin and the Rus people and all other Orthodox sinned who supported communisim, I'll put up the site were St'John Maximovic spoke that Russia sinned a very terrable sin of "reagaside" (I spelled it wrong) the Communist Ideaoligy/democracy/Constitutional Republicism is a Gentile (nonOrthodox) idea. We Orthodox ARE supposed to have MONARCHIES ,during the Liturgy the Bishop/Priest is not even to mention the name of a Baptised Orthodox president, thier only to mention the name of the Emporer/King/Empress/Queen, thats why even now Puttin nor the other Baptised (Beliver or not) Presidents are not alowed to enter the Alter with the Clergy, thats what the Holy Elder told me (I wont say this Holy Elder's name with out his Blessing, but if I did you'll belive this is true because you've all heard of him, but so scandle wont be broght on him and God's wrath on me, I wont say his name) these are the Ideas of the Gentiles and we are not supposed to have these forms of govs but since ALL beginning with Russia turned against God by turnning against the Tsar/Kings of 1.Greece 2.Srbia 3.Romania 4.Bulgaria for this Gentile idea (communism) Greece semi turrned but not fully like Rus/Srbia/Bulgaria/Romainia, and the Monk told me thats the ONLY reason that God did not alow the Greeks to be BUTCHED to death like the Russians under communisim, they the Russians turned from the Tsar/God in the most bold brutile and unloving way thats why I was told by the Father that God alowed Satan threw the communists to Marter all those millions of Russias the way the communists did, (I'm not trying to bost in my holyness because I'm the worst sinner of ALL )but I've seen the black and white footages of the Rev in Rus, dude! it was unbelivable the Rus were doing that Rus dance when they found out the Tsar fell from power, Then Hords of people with the soilders ran into the Cathedrals and came out with the Relgious stuff from the Church and were selling them braking them/and were celebrating as if Tsar took Constantinople from the Turks, the next Orthodox nation that turned in a reall bad way from thier King was the Romainians they were not as bad in their turning away as the Russians but compaired to the Srbs and Greeks they were way worse so God alowed hundreds of thousands to be marterd, then the Srbs came next ( in worstness) then the Greeks after the 1960 overthrow of thier King but since they didn't do the abominable things done in Rus/Rom in the same magnatude God alowed the Americans with the Marshal Plane to make sure the Soviets didn't completly make Greece communist, anyways I have compiled 4 years of reaserch on Prophecies concerning the Future, I've double cheched with Enlightend Elders just to make sure what I was reading is real Prophecies by CANNONISED Orthodox Christain Saints, I'll put it up later because my eyes are hurting from looking at this screen for so long, but I'll just say this though we are going to have a Nuclear War and most of the inhabitans of the world will die. :ohvey:

romiosini · Post by **romiosini** » Mon 21 June 2004 8:40 pm

forgive me to say Artemon, have you forgotten when the Jews wanted a King? God didn't propose them to have a King, the people did to God. Christ as God Himself, said give what is to Caesar and give what is to God. In our modern world, the past 3 or 4 centuries, we lacked doing what is needed to God and, which we gave sometimes to the Emperor/King/Tsar than to God and HIS Glory. Now, I am not saying no, to the sanctity of Saint Nicholas the Newmartyr and Emperor of Russia, but remember what position were the jews in in the old testament.
Now what are you talking about a Nuclear War? Do you not understand what God's most beloved disciple John heard and written in the Apocalypse? These so called Nuclear Wars or Star Wars, is simply the formation of the Apocalypse! God hasn't asked us to be Monarchists nor does he tell us to be disobedient to our Country's ruler. But do not be a fanatic of a Monarch, but be a Faithful of ONE and ONLY KING! Who died for you! Not many kings today would die for the truth!

/\RT3|\/|0|\| · Post by **/\RT3|\/|0|\|** » Mon 21 June 2004 10:56 pm

You are majorly assuming that we in the last 3-4 centuries have gave to our Kings more glory than to God/ people began to give the Glory of God to man beginning in 1917 till today, let me start putting my money where my mouth to show that the things I've stated are true.Why did you say he never asked us to be disobiedent to our rulers I have a feeling y u said it but to make sure I need you to tell me so why did you say that? The Apocalypse is very hard to understand so God has blessed Holy Sts./Elders/ Monks to interprite them if you don't belive me I will PERSONALLY PAY for your round trip ticket to Vlaam Monastery so you can ask Elder Raphael "are these prophecies true about WORLD WAR 3 and a Nuclear war?" (He's not the Elder that I metioned I talked to) I'm sure if your really senseer to know he'll tell you every thing I stated but in a much more gracful way I'LL return to post the sayings of St.John Maximovic about the Monarchy and the Prophecies of the future events.

romiosini · Post by **romiosini** » Tue 22 June 2004 12:53 am

Lord Have Mercy!

Nektarios14 · Post by **Nektarios14** » Tue 22 June 2004 1:00 am

Pardon me, but what is essentiel for mankind, isn't Empirers, it's Faith.

Αμην! It is sad to see people try to drag the worldly into the church and strive for worldly glory using the Church.

Chrysostomos · Post by **Chrysostomos** » Tue 22 June 2004 4:55 pm

Do not put your hope in princes and in sons of men, in whom
there is no salvation.