Who cares what a masonic handshake looks like!!!!
This is a masonic handshake. Do you see the problem? A freemason Patriarch?
it's not going to get us into heaven, it's not going to make us a better Orthodox Person... so why do we go looking for this garbage and why do we contaminate what was a very good site to visit?
But is important to us understand some atitudes of Athenagoras, like the leave of Anathemas. Ecumenism is a product of Freemasonary.
Be careful of drawing such sweeping judgements based on snapshots with no context.
Rash judgement of others is a sin- as is bearing false witness.
We should pray for those outside of the Church and not spread speculative gossip about them.
Be careful of drawing such sweeping judgements based on snapshots with no context.
Rash judgement of others is a sin- as is bearing false witness.
We should pray for those outside of the Church and not spread speculative gossip about them.
Im judging them by some especulative article or book. First, im not juding nobody. But, is important now that thing to understand some attitudes of Patriarcha Athenagoras. We know, the freemasonary work for ecumenism.
See, for exemple, this list:
http://www.grandlodge.gr/epifaneis2.html
This list have a considerable number of clergymans members of the Freemasonary, Im not juding or sendig them for Hell, but im finding a way to understand some facts.
rafaeldaher wrote:Paul VI are not a hiearch. He are a bishop of a heretical church. He is not a trully hiearch. And yes, Paul VI was a freemason:
First of all, I don't see how a picture of his mother's tomb means squat. Second, I would not identify that as the symbol of masonry, or indeed, even of masonry at all, free or brick-and-block. The standard symbol of the freemasons is the dividers and square; the latter does not appear in this image. What I see instead are a telescope, a triangle, dividers, a straightedge of some sort, and a few other things which I cannot make out clearly enough in this lousy photo enlargement. What I see suggests navigation, not masonry. Of course, one might get better information from an expert on heraldry or funerary monuments than from sedevacantist cranks.
