Iconophili's Great Big Thread of Conspiracies!

[ICONOPHILI]

? And this would matter how? There are EO persons here who also do not subscribe to nor believe your conspiracy ideas.

This is not an EO only forum. And it's there in my profile

Know that still does not let you know how or what I think.

Ebor

No wonder you think what you do, anyways most Orthodox who have converted from Protestantism/Catholicism think the Gov's story is correct because of what the Arab/Mideastern Muslims have did to us Orthodox in the last 500 years, so naturaly these Orthodox will say "well Arabs have a history of "anti-Christianism" (which is true BTW)Thats what I thought your (Ebor) position was scince I thought you were Orthodox, now I know your not, I now know you won't understand MANY things, so I wont hold you up to many other standards.Anyways but when it come to these last 93 Years The Zionists are the ones who are behind it all.

[Ebor]

? And this would matter how? There are EO persons here who also do not subscribe to nor believe your conspiracy ideas.

This is not an EO only forum. And it's there in my profile

Know that still does not let you know how or what I think.

Ebor

No wonder you think what you do,

That I think what? That your sources are highly questionable? That my personal experience with a brother-in-law, a real Human Being whom I have known for years and years who was at the Pentagon, on that side of the building on an inner ring upper level and escaped with his life and saw the aftermath is somehow not to believed above the writings of you (an unknown and therefore not necessarily reliable source of such information) and of someone who sees the Masonic "eye" in the ground marking outside the Pentagon?

That not being EO is why I believe in discerning carefully whether something is trustworthy?

anyways most Orthodox who have converted from Protestantism/Catholicism think the Gov's story is correct

And what of the "cradle" EO who believe the Governments reports?

Why do you not trust them? Do you have any preconcieved notions? Where did you get any? Are you convert or cradle, since you have slurred converts above?

Thats what I thought your (Ebor) position was scince I thought you were Orthodox, now I know your not, I now know you won't understand MANY things, so I wont hold you up to many other standards.Anyways but when it come to these last 93 Years The Zionists are the ones who are behind it all.

Not agreeing with you is not the same thing as not "understanding". And just what "standards" am I not being held up to? Why 93 years, out of idle curiosity? Is there something significant about that date?

Ebor

The Katana of Reasoned Discourse

[CGW]

Since the list of victims comes from the same CNN site, it's intellectually dihonest to claim that the one list is reliable and the other not. The truth is that these crankish sites have no better basis for making these claims than the supposedly government-tainted information that CNN is using. They are no better at interpreting the data than I am (and apparently, a lot worse) and they don't have any "secret" information that's being kept from the rest of us.

And the "illuminati"? Stuff and nonsense. Next you'll have signed up for orbital mind control lasers, alien invaders and everything else in the Weekly World News.

[ICONOPHILI]

Iconophili,

Why are you targeting this particular website? Also, what other websites do you blanket with your opinions on this topic?

In that people here consider your opinions, for the most part, to be peculiar and unsound, why do you persist here? I don't think we have shown ourselves to be potential converts to conspiracy/paranoia theories.

Mine are calm questions, so there will be no need to be ugly in response.

Actually I learned all about The NWO Zionist stuff, after reading Artemon's links, I checked it out and I asked my Spiritual Father if there are such things as a New World Order and are the Jews behind it, and not only did he assure me there is, but he gave me, the book published by The Church Abroad, I thinkit's called "Orthodox Life" or Orthodox Word" It was the November 1996 Issue and It showed Prophecies about NWO and Future Ecumenical Council which will occer after The Roman (Byzintine) Empire is restored in whicj the Church will finalil ANATHEMATISE ANY and EVERYONE who's involved in the Masonic order, if you don't believe me just go and get that Issue, these are Propheciesed by our Orthodox Saints, Plus I read Elder Paissios's book (The one with The Sunset on MT.Athos with The Elder's Face on it) in his book he Clearly says that a Zionist conspirousy does exist.[/u]

[ICONOPHILI]

? And this would matter how? There are EO persons here who also do not subscribe to nor believe your conspiracy ideas.

This is not an EO only forum. And it's there in my profile

Know that still does not let you know how or what I think.

Ebor

No wonder you think what you do,

That I think what? That your sources are highly questionable? That my personal experience with a brother-in-law, a real Human Being whom I have known for years and years who was at the Pentagon, on that side of the building on an inner ring upper level and escaped with his life and saw the aftermath is somehow not to believed above the writings of you (an unknown and therefore not necessarily reliable source of such information) and of someone who sees the Masonic "eye" in the ground marking outside the Pentagon?

That not being EO is why I believe in discerning carefully whether something is trustworthy?

anyways most Orthodox who have converted from Protestantism/Catholicism think the Gov's story is correct

And what of the "cradle" EO who believe the Governments reports?

Why do you not trust them? Do you have any preconcieved notions? Where did you get any? Are you convert or cradle, since you have slurred converts above?

Thats what I thought your (Ebor) position was scince I thought you were Orthodox, now I know your not, I now know you won't understand MANY things, so I wont hold you up to many other standards.Anyways but when it come to these last 93 Years The Zionists are the ones who are behind it all.

Not agreeing with you is not the same thing as not "understanding". And just what "standards" am I not being held up to? Why 93 years, out of idle curiosity? Is there something significant about that date?

Ebor

The Katana of Reasoned Discourse

Cradel Orthodox in Western Europe and U.S.A. went to school here so they have been taught (Brainwashed) to believe There no such thing as Zionist conspirousy, all who speak about there not being 6 Million jews killed in WW2, and Jews control over U.S.A. are evil and should not be listened to, so they learn what they were brainwashed to in public school systems, so thats why they have the same answer, LOOK if there was no conspirousy, the Government wouldn't be BREAKING the Constitution, to bring U.S.A. closer to The New World Order, (Suspension Of the Constitution and TOATAL police state, in descise as Protection from Terrorism), BTW Where's the WMD's if Bush didn't invade Iraq for OIL? :mrgreen:

[ICONOPHILI]

Since the list of victims comes from the same CNN site, it's intellectually dihonest to claim that the one list is reliable and the other not. The truth is that these crankish sites have no better basis for making these claims than the supposedly government-tainted information that CNN is using. They are no better at interpreting the data than I am (and apparently, a lot worse) and they don't have any "secret" information that's being kept from the rest of us.

And the "illuminati"? Stuff and nonsense. Next you'll have signed up for orbital mind control lasers, alien invaders and everything else in the Weekly World News.

If the Illuminati stuff is nonsense then why have these things happend exactly as the Illuminati have planned? Increasing profits for big business, increasing poverty for the middle class (who they despise). A rapid decline in moral standards and the promotion of social decay.

• Transience. Jobs that don't last; neighbourhoods that don't last.

• Increasing levels of crime and violence.

• Decline and demise of public services; replacement by private enterprise - good service for the few who can afford it.

• Ongoing ill health for the bulk of the population because of stress; poor quality foods; food additives; genetic engineering; pollution and drugs. There may be good health for those who can afford it - only the rich and well informed.

• The gradual phasing out of national governments, which will have powers more like the regional governments of today.

• The formation of several conglomerations like the United States.

In time a world leader will be announced, a real one this time. A pity he will have a cynical contempt for the most of humanity. Do we deserve it

[CGW]

Well, if you don't like the way things are headed, then stop voting for Republicans!

Seriously-- crime is actually down at the moment, mostly because there's a dearth of young men to become criminals. The other things? Well, it doesn't necessarily take a conspiracy to make these things happen. Just because someone says that some illuminati (who probably don't exist anyway) want these things to happen doesn't mean that these "illuminati" are capable of making them happen. You are credulous and ill-read. Pick up some real public policy magazines and read them; a lot of what's in them is nonsense too, but at least it's nonsense from people who have some qualifications to offer opinions.