Iconophili's Great Big Thread of Conspiracies!

The resting place of threads that were very valid in 2004, but not so much in 2024. Basically this is a giant historical archive.


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ICONOPHILI wrote:

My Spiritual Father is the Main resean I have found out these things ARE true, You seem to think I believe these things based on "BlindFaith"(.)

What you seem to mean is, you listened to your spiritual father (who is of course also unqualified to hold an opinion anyway-- he's a cleric, not a historian) and looked at a bunch of crackpot sites, and didn't bother to read anything from a legitimate site or appraoch what you did read with any skepticism. So yes, you do approach this with "blind faith"-- faith in sources which do not merit it.

if there is no conspirousy, the U.S. Gov would not be breaking the Constitution to bring U.S. to a total POLICE state in descise as "war on terror"(.)

Ah, but you are neglecting a far more likely scenario. Governments are, by their nature, predisposed to enlarge and impose more control and in general become more despotic. Even if the government didn't have any involvement in making this happen, it was a ready-made excuse to increase "security" and take actions which ordinarily it would impossible to justify or get away with.

And that is the explanation that has prevailed. The government didn't do these acts, but it found in them excuses to invade Afghanistan and Iraq and to ignore a lot of constitutional prohibitions.

tell him to go to the Little store across the street and ask the Pakistani owner what happed 5 minutes after the thing hit the Pentagon

So- maybe- they took a security tape. Big deal. It doesn't mean anything.

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ICONOPHILI wrote:

Look you Heathen according to our Church teaching people where not living a shorter life span in the past, that is a non-Orthodox teaching,

When I want to find out about lifespans, I'll ask a demographer. Oh, and if I want to know about church teachings, I'll ask someone who is an authority, not some layman who is so wound up he isn't bothering to check his spelling.

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I don't think that I'll bother my brother-in-law with a "personal" message from someone that I know nothing about beyond a 'net name and that you believe in the Illuminati/NWO/ etc etc conspiracy theories. Just how personal could it be? And you don't know just what he saw, you don't exactly where he was, how he got out or what he saw once he was out of the Pentagon.

I'm sorry, but I see no reason to accept you as any kind of an authority. You have not given any kind of bona fides as to why one should. To be frank, it is not known if you are EO either. On the 'net anyone may claim anything. You could be a member of some splinter group or someone pretending to be EO to use this forum as a sounding board.

I beg your pardon for any offense in that. But here we are only words on a screen and it is by those words and how we treat other people that we are judged on a forum, imo.

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ICONOPHILI wrote:

Look you Heathen...

!! I wish there was an emoticon with one raised eyebrow :lol:
Well," an insult is like a drink, it only affects one if it is accepted" as the old saying goes.

according to our Church teaching people where not living a shorter life span in the past, that is a non-Orthodox teaching,

Would you give some references or documentation or source for this, please? And are you saying that History is only acceptable from an EO interpretation?

BTW I like how you skip the other parts of what I posted Crime going up,

It is not necessary to address every point in a post perhaps. But you merely made an assertion without any backup. Why should your assertion be taken as true or you as an authority on crime statistics?

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Thank you, Orthodox6, for your post. I was interested that Not EO = "Heathen". :) Unless the equation is "Not believing in the conspiracy theories/agreeing with Iconophilli" = "Heathen".

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George Australia wrote:

Ebor,
Do you remember me saying something about "Purple Demons" somewhere else? Well guess what? The Liturgical Period of Triodion has begun! :wink:

I remember the Purple Demons, indeed. :wink: So they get started early and don't wait for Lent proper to begin?

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The is no insult in calling you a HEATHEN, you claimed we are living longer than ever, that's not a Christian teaching, so it's Heathenistic, youra Protestant/ Or a Paypist (Catholic) but these teachings are not Protestant/Or Catholic they are Masonic teachings designed to slowly destroy people's beliefe in Christianity, so ALL in ALL it is A HEATHENISTIC teaching.

according to our Church teaching people where not living a shorter life span in the past, that is a non-Orthodox teaching,

Would you give some references or documentation or source for this, please? And are you saying that History is only acceptable from an EO interpretation?
YES I CAN, Read "Genesis Creation and Early Man" by Father Seraphim Rose, he basical "Compiled" all the writings of the Church Fathers on Evolution, western man claiming we in our modern age are living longer than man in the past, I have the book so I should know.

BTW I like how you skip the other parts of what I posted Crime going up,

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