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AndyHolland
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Post by AndyHolland »

The same way you and I can be saved.

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I begin to wonder if the originator of this thread does not, in fact, subscribe to the ummm peculiar ideas that he/she posts here, but is having a good time attempting to "rattle the cage" as it were.

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AndyHolland wrote:

Dear CGW,

If you want to be saved go to the Ark (Church) before the flood comes and find Jesus Christ at the helm and the Holy Spirit filling the sails. If We the People want to be saved, We the People need to find the Ark and recognize Jesus Christ is Lord.

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"Ark" = "Church" = EO?

If so then the US must become EO?

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AndyHolland wrote:

People went and formed a nation together united, apart from God.

And how was the US formed without God, in your opinion?

For lack of better term "nationalism"

"Nationalism"? Would you please define what that word means to you?

...as represented by Nimrod,

Represented to you in your mind. Since you "speak for yourself" I see no reason to accept your interpretation without some kind of support from some other reliable source.

Read these things again and again with the Fathers.

Which "Fathers"? What works? Would you please give citations to back up claims that you are making?

Also, if you have ever been with people who are dieing, they often report seeing "the hunter",

Citations and supporting information, please?

Separation of Church and State is certainly not supported by Holy Scripture and is a post schism Western heresy - IMHO of course.

As you say, in your "humble" opinion. Without a separation of Church and State in the US, why would there be any EO allowed to practice or be established in this country for you to convert to (you said that you converted, did you not?)

.....and destroying the largest Church in Southeast Asia two days later along with part of a city.

According to information I have looked up the "largest Church (RC) in "Southeast Asia" is the Se Cathedral in Goa, India.
http://www.surfindia.com/travel/goa/se-cathederal.html

Japan is in East Asia and was the site in Nagasaki of the Urakami Cathedral that was destroyed in 1945 and has been rebuilt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urakami_Cathedral

Making mistakes and errors that can be easily found to be such does not make a good support for your ideas. Details and facts do matter.

Have you made any study of the Pacific Theater of World War II? What books have you read on this topic, please? Japanese history is one of my interests.

For example, I don't like the fact that in 1776 the flag of a snake was used with the term "don't tread on me." They knew perfectly well what snake that referred to - the one in the garden who rebelled, and they knew perfectly well who they were rebelling against!

No, the snake that referred to was the North American Rattlesnake. Your opinion on what they meant is countered by what they actually wrote about it.

However, the revolutionaries weren't exactly passive martyrs tar and feathering the opposition!

Nor were those opposed to the American Revolution "passive martyrs". Would you have preferred that the Revolution had not taken place?

Ebor

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Republican Congressman Ron Paul ..."the US was slipping perilously close to a dictatorship."

Absurd.

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Post by ICONOPHILI »

TomS wrote:

Republican Congressman Ron Paul ..."the US was slipping perilously close to a dictatorship."

Absurd.

Why how could YOU SAY it's absurd, when Bush has even said he wished he was a Dictator. How can people like you constantly be shown evidences of a New World Order conspirousy and still say, this is true that isn't true, the Constatution is being broken beyond repair, with every new Administration and you say these niave things.

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Post by Ekaterina »

I often find that posters of such doo doo tend to do so more to get a rise out of everyone, than for any real value. Such postings ultimately only have as much value as we ascribe to them.

Any way...I think you are right, Ebor....

Katya

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