Celibate Bishops

AndyHolland · Post by **AndyHolland** » Thu 8 June 2006 10:15 pm

No - the American Antiochian Church is recently Self-governing.

www.antiochian.org

andy holland
sinner

Priest Siluan · Post by **Priest Siluan** » Thu 8 June 2006 10:21 pm

AndyHolland wrote:
The canon is completely consistent with what was written above and it was represented accurately.

A Bishop does not have to be a monastic.

A Bishop can be married but must be celibate.

A Bishop must care for his wife though separate.

Apostolic Authority allowed for married Bishops.

There is no indication Alexy II was not celibate or did not follow the canon.

St. John Kronstadt was married and celibate!(He was a Priest but not a Bishop).

andy holland
sinner

I agree with you in yours point, and Alexey II was made a celibe bishop because he leave his wife and became a monk, that is not questionable, he acts well.

What is interesting is that the Ofiesh, the Ofiesh Groups, Western Rite and renovacionists are all of them linked one each other.

The western rite is interesting they are as "Orthodox-anglicanized", it is a cultural problem maybe soon they get their married bishops. Of course there are not any canon that prohibit the WR and everything the rest.

尼古拉前执事 · Post by **尼古拉前执事** » Fri 9 June 2006 12:35 am

The canons clearly say that they must be separated, she cannot live with him, and she must become a monastic.

AndyHolland · Post by **AndyHolland** » Fri 9 June 2006 9:30 am

Priest Siluan wrote:
The western rite is interesting they are as "Orthodox-anglicanized", it is a cultural problem maybe soon they get their married bishops. Of course there are not any canon that prohibit the WR and everything the rest.

For the Antiochian Western Rite - I really, really doubt they would ever have married Bishops. They tend to be far more rule oriented, strict and many grow a disdain for things like the new calendar and other innovations.

andy holland
sinner

Priest Siluan · Post by **Priest Siluan** » Fri 9 June 2006 9:59 am

Νικολάος Διάκ wrote:
The canons clearly say that they must be separated, she cannot live with him, and she must become a monastic.

Ok, Dear Father Nikolai, it should be this way, just that some renovacionists tries to do another thing and to confuse people.

Myrrh · Post by **Myrrh** » Fri 9 June 2006 5:37 pm

1 Timothy 3:2
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

1 Timothy 3:12
Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.

Titus 1:6
If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

Myrrh · Post by **Myrrh** » Fri 9 June 2006 6:20 pm

http://www.ccel.org/fathers2/NPNF2-14/Npnf2-14-26.htm