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George's "we do not allow defaming people via obviously doctored photos.

Don't you?
Well then, you'd better do something about this:

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This other picture is truly funny..."Slava Vyelikomu Oktyabryu!" (Glory to the Great October)

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Well the first 2 are fake once you look at the shadows, which I admit I missed the first time I looked at them, but I seem to be missing what makes the 3rd fake.

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Deacon Nikolai wrote:

Well the first 2 are fake once you look at the shadows, which I admit I missed the first time I looked at them, but I seem to be missing what makes the 3rd fake.

In the 3rd photograph, look at the difference in the level of contrast between the figures of the clergy and the non-clergy at the table and the rest of the photograph.
I ask seriously, isn't the doctoring of photos something the KGB would do? So who is really using Soviet-style tactics?

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Father Seraphim did not doubt the grace of the Moscow Patriarchate, why must the members of this forum? Please forgive me if my faith in Father Seraphim as an exemplar of Orthodoxy is misplaced.

Peace.

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Pensees wrote:

Father Seraphim did not doubt the grace of the Moscow Patriarchate, why must the members of this forum? Please forgive me if my faith in Father Seraphim as an exemplar of Orthodoxy is misplaced.

Peace.

Pensees first off Hieromonk and possibly Blessed Seraphim was a great ascetic and bravely confessed the correct Dogma of the Redemption, the creation and the fall of man aganist those who would rip out the central meaning of our faith. His attitude towards World Orthodoxy- the religion of the antichrist- though it weakened towards the end especially after the repose of Blessed Averky of Jordanville was not yours.

He said that Jordanville was the last Orthodox seminary in the world and I doubt he would have had much truck with the jesuitical smuggness of new ROCOR or the modernists in the GOC in the USA who carry links to the mad ramblings of the heretic Romanides.

The fact is that a lot of people while saying they are aganist false ecumenism and even sergianism are basically modernists- and in fighting aganist their modernism he lost some balance in his dealings with those who came from "Churches" which had fallen to those heresies.

Read the introduction the Lives of the Catacomb Saints of Russia that he wrote, get your hands on a first edition because the apostate Brotherhood of St Herman has probably changed it. I can send you a photocopy of it if you want. His attitude towards the Sergianists was a lot stricter than you would like to make out.

Also Im not sure if he counts as a Church Father and he obviously wasnt God and so should not be followed blindly.

God Bless and guide you!

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He said that Jordanville was the last Orthodox seminary in the world and I doubt he would have had much truck with the jesuitical smuggness of new ROCOR or the modernists in the GOC in the USA who carry links to the mad ramblings of the heretic Romanides.

What exactly is your beef with Romanides? That he wrote an article calling Old Calendarists Crypto-Augustinian? Or you don't agree with some of his historical theories? The link to Romanides is in a list of links to various links--some religious and dogmatic, while others being secular and historical, dealing with aspects of history.

To call us in America modernists is plain evil. We are struggling for Orthodox tradition to the point that our Metropolitan had a stroke from the stress of it all, while you sit in the comfort of your home critiquing us from across the sea. Geronda and Bishop Christodoulos are tireless proponents of Orthodox tradition who travel around the vast continents of N and S America working non-stop to spread True Orthodoxy and to call them modernists to me is just sick and twisted. You seem obsessed with rather trivial things and not the main issues.

When are you going to make a stand Theophan for yourself and stop judging others?

Anastasios

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GOCTheophan wrote:

Also Im not sure if he counts as a Church Father and he obviously wasnt God and so should not be followed blindly.

Father Seraphim is a modern father of the Church, and his word is more trustworthy than the members of an internet forum.

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