Cyprian Was Wrong on Rebaptism

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Cyprian Was Wrong on Rebaptism

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It occurs to me based on the material I have examined, that Tascius Caecilius Cyprianus (aka Saint Cyprian), and the Orthodox who follow his view of rebaptizing heretics, are wrong.

Here are my reasons:

Pope Saint Stephen disagreed with Cyprian. Stephen had greater authority then Cyprian, being Pontiff of the Apostolic See in Rome.

Cyprian cited a fragment from Stephen's decree which said:

"If anyone comes to you from any heresy whatsoever, let there be no innovation, but observe what has been handed down..." [Corpus Scriptorum Christianorum Orientalium, Paris 1903-3:799-800,805].

The statement above shows Cyprian's view was an innovation and violated the teaching of the Church which was handed down.

Bishop Firmilian of Caesarea supported Cyprian on this. Regarding Pope Stephen Firmilian stated:

"....Stephen , who preaches that he has the chair of Peter by succession, is moved by no zeal against the heretics..." [Cyprian Ep. 75, CSEL 3:821].

A century and a half later, commenting on the controversy, St. Jerome wrote:

"Blessed Cyprian... condemning the baptism of heretics, sent [the acts of] an African Council on this matter to Stephen, who was then bishop of the city of Rome, and the twenty-second from Blessed Peter; but his attempt was in vain. Eventually the very same bishops, who had laid down with him that heretics were to be rebaptized, returning to the ancient custom, published a new decree [Contra Lucif., 23. PL 23:186].

We see in the above that Cyprian recognized the authority / opinion of Stephen by sending him the acts of an African Council.

We also see that the bishops who had originally agreed with Cyprian, "returned to the ancient custom." This shows the ancient custom was not in favor of Cyprian, according to Jerome.

Augustine later stated:

"I do not accept what Blessed Cyprian thought about baptizing heretics and schismatics, because the Church, for which Blessed Cyprian shed his blood, does not accept this" [Contra Cresc.II, 32].

We see in the above quote that the church did not accept Cyprian's view. The Pope and universal Church had more authority then Cyprian.

But Augustine insisted, Cyprian remained "in catholic unity," and whatever correction Cyprian needed was compensated by his abundant charity, and the purification of suffering. [De Bapt. I, 18. PL 43: 125-6, 465, 490].

The position of the "rebaptizers" was repudiated even by heretics. Patriarch Severus of Antioch, who was excommunicated by Pope St. Symmachus [498-514] did not agree with Cyprian. [Ed. E.W. Brooks. The Sixth Book of the Select Letters...2:314].

'LET THERE BE NO INNOVATION" (NIHIL INNOVETUR)

The words nihil innovetur --- let there be no innovation! remind us that Stephen had invoked his power not in favor of doctrinal novelty, but to preserve the ancient practice of the Church. Two centuries later, in a work known as the Commonitorium, Vincent of Lerins wrote:

"Agrippinus of venerable memory, who was once bishop of Carthage, first of all mortals, against the divine Canons, against the rule of the Universal Church, against the opinion of all his fellow priests, against the custom and institutions of the elders, thought that rebaptism ought to be practiced...Then Pope Stephen of blessed memory, bishop of the Apostolic See, together indeed with the rest of his colleagues but more than the others, resisted, thinking it fitting, I think, that that he exceed all the rest as much by the devotion of his faith as he did by the authority of his place. What happened in the end? What force was there in the African Council or decree? By God's gift, none. Everything, as if a dream or story, was trampled upon as useless, abolished, superseded..." [PL 50:645-6].

Saint Vincent of Lerins did not agree with Cyprian.

I wonder how Orthodox and "rebaptizers" deal with these facts.

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I found some more material which damages the Cyprianite view of rebaptizing.

First, long after the Stephen/Cyprian dispute, Saint Gregory Nazianzen praised the Roman Church in a poem about his life, "Carmen de Vita Sua."

"....Regarding the faith which they uphold," the saint said, "Old Rome has long kept a straight course, and still does, uniting the whole West by the saving word, as is just for her who presides over all, reverencing the universal divine harmony." [PG 37:1068].

I have a few observations on the above quote:

  1. Saint Gregory stated the Church in "Rome has long kept a straight course". This would mean Pope Stephen did not err on the baptismal dispute.

  2. And all the way up to the time of Gregory, Rome "still does" keep "a straight course."

  3. He also said Rome "presides over all." This clearly means Stephen presided and had authority above Cyprian.

Theodoret, bishop of Cyrus, who had been deposed at the "Robber Council" of Ephesus [449], appealed to Pope Leo the Great. In his letter Theodoret praised the Roman Church, among other reasons, because it had "never been infected with any heresy. It has never been occupied by an enemy of the true faith, but has preserved the apostolic grace intact." [PG 83, 1324].

We learn from the above:

  1. Theodoret appealed to the Pope. This means he recognized the popes authority.

  2. Theodoret states the Roman Church had "never been infected with any heresy." This shows Stephen's teaching on baptism was not heretical.

  3. He states the See of Rome "had never been occupied by an enemy of the truth." This shows Stephen was not an enemy of the truth.

During the time of Pope St. Siricius [384-399], certain Spanish bishops were rebaptizing converts from Arianism, "which is illicit, as the apostle forbids [Eph. 4,5] and it goes against the canons," the pope noted, adding that after the Council of Rimini, Pope Liberius had sent decrees throughout the provinces" prohibiting rebaptism. Such converts were to be reconciled by imposition of the bishop's hands, and invocation of the sevenfold Spirit, as was the practice of EAST AND WEST (emphasis mine), the pope wrote, adding: "from this path you must not deviate, if you do not want to be separated in mind from our synodal college." [PL 13:1133-4].

During the pontificate of Innocent I [401-417], Pope Innocent stated that Individuals returning from the Novations and Montanists, were be received by the imposition of hands only, because they had been baptized in Christ's name, "albeit by heretics." [PL 20:475].

In 313 there was a council which met at Rome. The judges included Pope Miltiades, three bishops sent by Constantine, and fifteen Italian bishops. According to Saint Optatus, bishop of Milevis [370], Donatus was found guilty of of rebaptism and other violations. [Bk I, 24. PL 11:932].

THE COUNCIL OF ARLES [314]

Regarding Baptisim

Canon 8:

"Regarding the Africans, who use their own law to rebaptize, it has been enacted that if anybody comes to the church from heresy, let them ask him the Creed: and if they see that he has been baptized in the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit, let the hand be imposed upon him only, that he may receive the Holy Spirit. But if the person questioned doe not answer with the Trinity, let him be baptized. [Mansi 2:472].

I want to emphasize the fact that these bishops, Councils and Popes, were wholly Orthodox at this time. Even the Orthodox churches today are obligated to accept these "pre-schism" bishops, Councils and Popes.

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I am disappointed that no one can explain this contradiction between Orthodox Fathers. And why Orthodox churches choose to follow the disobedience of Saint Cyprian.

The more I examine ancient Church history and primary source material, the more I learn and realize that the "Orthodox" churches (plural) of today, are not the Orthodox Church of the first 800 years. Notice I said "churches" (plural). I say this because there is no ONE Orthodox Church.

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Evfimy wrote:

Notice I said "churches" (plural). I say this because there is no ONE Orthodox Church.

Notice that it is a dogma of the Orthodox Church that there is one church and one church only.

The answer for you is that the Orthodox Church baptizes and never "re-baptizes" because we also confess one baptism and one baptism only.

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You follow the policy and practice of Saint Cyprian. I proved he was mistaken. He was refuted by popes, a council (Arles), father's and ancient tradition.

As for the one Church, where is it? There's so many claiming to be it (GOC, GOA, TOC, ROCA-V, ROCA-L, ROAC-V, ROAC-G, OCA, HOCNA, etc) it's virtually impossible to get a handle on Orthodoxy.

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it's virtually impossible to get a handle on Orthodoxy.

For you.

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Evfimy wrote:

You follow the policy and practice of Saint Cyprian. I proved he was mistaken. He was refuted by popes, a council (Arles), father's and ancient tradition.

As for the one Church, where is it? There's so many claiming to be it (GOC, GOA, TOC, ROCA-V, ROCA-L, ROAC-V, ROAC-G, OCA, HOCNA, etc) it's virtually impossible to get a handle on Orthodoxy.

Evfimy, the orthodox church does not recognises the baptism of heretics as being a true baptism! You can read the canon 46 and 47 of the Apostles for this. After that, it can receive those who received heretical baptisms according to the circunstances. If you read the Pedalion, which is the official book of canons of the church, you see that some heretics were received by baptism, others by chrismation etc.

Moreover, the council of Arles was a LOCAL council. The ecumenical council never decided to include it the the book of canon that are to be implemented in ALL local churches!! If you decide to follow the Arles council, then you should follow the calculation of the feast of Easter it decided and that is different from ours now.

This is an illustration : From the first ecumenical council

19. As concerns Paulianists who afterwards took refuge in the catholic Church, it is made a definition that they be rebaptized without fail.

There are many examples like this in the Pedalion that is the official book of canons of the Church, endorsed by the ecumenical councils.

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