Obama to God: "Bring It On?"

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Thousand-Year Rains Flood and Devastate Tennessee:

http://assets2.blogher.com/thousand-yea ... e?from=top

We're Sorry, Tennessee:

http://bloodthirstyliberal.com/?cat=695

I heard about the flooding, but it was spring—when does it not flood in spring? And there were tornados to ignore, and earthquakes to shrug off….

There are no excuses: I’m sorry, Tennessee. Among recent natural disasters, this is second only to Katrina.

Link to Gulf Oil Leak disaster.

http://www.takepart.com/news/2010/05/06 ... s-concerns

But the connection between Nashville and New Orleans has gone largely unreported. The abundance of water from the floods has to eventually go somewhere and, just like rivers from 30 other states, the Cumberland feeds into the Mississippi, which of course empties out into the Gulf of Mexico about 100 miles south of New Orleans.

Initially, the thinking among Louisiana residents closely monitoring the spill was that floodwater could be beneficial. The fast-moving water washing out into the Gulf of Mexico might offer a kind of natural relief against the tides and currents threatening to carry the oil closer to land.

The state had already opened up freshwater diversion projects to flush Mississippi River water into some inland marshes on the west bank of the river; why not let nature’s course do the same thing at the mouth of the estuary leading into the Gulf of Mexico?

But when I ran that thinking by Tracy Kuhns, a fisherman’s wife from Barataria who works closely with the local Association of Family Fishermen, she saw the arrival of flood waters from the north as yet another worst case scenario. The association is made up of shrimpers mostly, who fish out of Bayou Lafourche and on the Gulf.

Her concern is that, rather than push against the oil, the fast-moving water will carry all the young shrimp and other sea life out into the mess.

“That’s one reason everyone’s fishing so hard now,” she says, “before any more water comes down from the north…and before any oil comes in from the Gulf.”

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Thousands in the fishing industry along the Gulf coast share Kuhns's concerns. Forty percent of the fish consumed in the lower 48 come from the Gulf, which is the major provider of shrimp, oyster and crab in the U.S.

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Congressman to launch inquiry on how much oil is gushing into Gulf:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/14/gulf.o ... tml?hpt=T1

May 14, 2010 4:22 a.m. EDT

Associate professor Steve Wereley said he arrived at that number after spending two hours Thursday analyzing video of a spill using a technique called particle image velocimetry. He said there is a 20 percent margin of error, which means between 56,000 and 84,000 barrels could be leaking daily.

"You can't say with precision, but you can see there's definitely more coming out of that pipe than people thought. It's definitely not 5,000 barrels a day," Wereley said.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/05/13 ... rning-ash/

Updated May 13, 2010

It's been a month now, and Iceland's volcano shows no sign it will stop belching ash across Europe anytime soon. The rolling eruptions threaten more havoc for summer vacation plans and higher costs for struggling airlines.

Although the global disruption of last month's massive eruption has faded, smaller ash plumes snarled air services intermittently over the last week all the way to Turkey — more than 2,500 miles from the Eyjafjallajokul volcano.

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Since then the ash plume has thinned and spread out, shifting shape by the hour, rising into North Atlantic air routes and imposing awkward detours on hundreds of trans-Atlantic flights daily.

The costs to airlines associated with an ash cloud can add up quickly. Consider that two hours of jet fuel to divert to another airport can cost $5,000 to $10,000 depending on the size of aircraft involved.

This weekend, Lufthansa couldn't land in Munich so diverted planes to other German airports and bussed passengers the rest of the way.

Lufthansa spokesman Thomas Jachnow said the airline hadn't calculated yet how much extra costs it was suffering because of the sporadic diversions and grounding of aircraft over the past week. Dozens of European airlines have suffered similar extra costs and are already lobbying their national governments to help foot the bill, which includes paying the hotel and food bills of stranded customers.

Jose Luis Barrera, deputy president of Spain's College of Geologists, said Europe should get ready for ash-covered inconvenience at least through the summer — and perhaps longer. He noted that the volcano's last eruption ran from 1821 to 1823.

Hurricane season takes oil from Gulf deep inland over the world's bread basket, mixes with ash circling globe from volcano, combusts and falls into the fresh water sources of the USA = Third Trumpet?

The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— the name of the star is Wormwood.[a] A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.

The Fourth Trumpet could be the volcano ash growing so thick it blocks out the sun during the day, and the stars at night:

The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night.

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This is fascinating, thank you for bringing out this information for us.
We all appreciate the very lively debate, it's great to learn which one can get various angels I mean angles from each comment!

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Catherine5 wrote:

This is fascinating, thank you for bringing out this information for us.
We all appreciate the very lively debate, it's great to learn which one can get various angels I mean angles from each comment!

A lot depends on how literal the fulfillment of Revelation is going to be. For instance, will the Fourth Trumpet literally mean that 1/3 of the sun, moon, and stars "turn dark"? Or, can they continue to emit the same amount of light, and only 2/3 of that get through because of volcano ash gone worldwide.

In the shadow of the volcano, where day becomes night under a blanket of ash (Last updated at 1:19 PM on 14th May 2010):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... gPage=true

Effects of dispersants in the Gulf of Mexico oil spill:

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/291929

May 13, 2010

While it is true that dispersants will lead to less disastrous effects in animals and plants that live on or close to the surface, such as seabirds and mangroves, they will lead to more disastrous effects on plants and animals that live in deeper layers, such as seagrass and coral reefs.

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Dispersants are normally sprayed on the surface, but now, for the first time, the EPA has approved a test for underwater application. While surface spraying is a lot easier, scientists think that underwater application at the source may have distinct advantages.

The response to the Deepwater Horizon incident is the start of a giant long-term experiment on the use of dispersants.

The dispersants can make possible the most literal fulfillment of "a third of the living creatures in the sea died", not just surface life, thanks to the disperants even the coral reefs on the very bottom of the ocean floor can die.

Oil Spill Solutions Doing More Harm Than Good? (May 14, 2010) Scientists believe leak is much worse than reported:

BP Sends Tube to Oil Leak in Latest Attempt to Slow Gulf Spill:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/13/bp ... ulf-spill/

Updated May 14, 2010

The size of the spill, as measured from satellites, seems to have grown about 50 percent from May 10 to late Thursday, said Graber from the University of Miami.

"There's a hell of a lot coming out," Graber said of the oil.

50 percent growth of oil on the surface, in 3 days, despite the amount of that is being diluted into the water with chemicals (invisibly killing the life below the surface)?

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Wow, Ian, you are really alert about all the news behind the news of these tumultuous events! You are an asset to this site, glad you returned.
I would always guess that every one of the crises faced today is way played down by American officialdom. Based on situations which I know more about, I can see where a totally different 'spin' is placed by official announcements on events which probably were quite opposite.
For example, they announce that a military operation was a grand success. When in fact, it was a stalemate - at best. Numbers are completely invented; such as "the brave American forces killed 20 top "militant" commanders" - well, usually they killed 54 civilians and not a single 'insurgent'.

So, whenever reading government statements, my feeling is to always assume they minimize to the extreme real problems. And they make up or exaggerate fake problems to get the people riled up, like climate change.

Therefore, it's no surprise they never would admit how bad that oil spill is.
Very sad about the loss of marine life!

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Catherine5 wrote:

Wow, Ian, you are really alert about all the news behind the news of these tumultuous events! You are an asset to this site, glad you returned.

Thank you.

Catherine5 wrote:

I would always guess that every one of the crises faced today is way played down by American officialdom. Based on situations which I know more about, I can see where a totally different 'spin' is placed by official announcements on events which probably were quite opposite.
For example, they announce that a military operation was a grand success. When in fact, it was a stalemate - at best. Numbers are completely invented; such as "the brave American forces killed 20 top "militant" commanders" - well, usually they killed 54 civilians and not a single 'insurgent'.

I know the US military does various accounting tricks to lower its own causalties (and spins everything to its own advantage), and the insurgents might be able to win a ambush against an isolated squad of Americans, but I don't doubt that we Americans crush the Jihadis in every direct encounter:

I don't believe Jihadi reports of any real victories against what is demonstrated above. That kind of military power is why the Antichrist almost certainly has to start out as the last President of the USA, which is probably Mystery Babylon.

Revelation 13:4:

Men worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, "Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?"

What is the U.S. Government doing in Ancient Babylon?

Changing subjects slightly, the only "Christian" leader that I know that has flatly denied that Obama could be the Antichrist.

John Hagee asked by Glen Beck, "Is Obama the Antichrist." Hagee, "No chance."

John Hagee ad, "Expose the sins of the [Church] Fathers", "Will Shake Christian Theology", "Jews as a people did not reject Jesus as Messiah", "Jesus did not come to earth to be the Messiah":

Then Jesus asked them, "And who do you say I am?" Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ ["Anointed One", "Messiah"], the Son of the living God." Jesus answered, "You are blessed, Simon son of Jonah, because no person taught you that. My Father in heaven showed you who I am."

I was actually given his book, In Defense of Israel, as a gift by relatives, one of the worst theological works that I've ever read.

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Scientists: Underwater plume of oil headed out to sea:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/201 ... pill_N.htm

May 15, 2010

The underwater plume of oil billowing from a renegade wellhead in the Gulf of Mexico is headed away from the coast and back out to sea, according to federally-funded scientists studying the spill.

In the first on-site measurements of the oil spreading below the surface, researchers found the plume of crude stretches 15 to 20 miles southwest from the site of the damaged wellhead and is about 5 miles wide, said Vernon Asper, a University of Southern Mississippi marine scientist leading the research.

The plume is compact, much thicker than the lighter remnants reaching the surface and suspended in about 3,000 feet of ocean, he said. A deepwater current is dragging it out to sea. The underwater oil cloud is not connected to the surface slick — now the size of Delaware and Rhode Island combined.

"This [underwater] plume is some of the heavier products of the oil that won't reach the surface," Asper said in a radio-telephone interview from aboard the R/V Pelican, a 116-foot research ship at the site of the spill. "We think this oil is going to stay down there. It doesn't look like it's coming to the surface."

Bad. Very bad. So very, very unbelievably bad. The surface slick, which is constantly being reduced by disperants that shift the damage below surface (out of sight, out of mind), may only be the tip of the iceberg. The underwater plume of the heavy oil is "15 to 20 miles" long and "5 miles wide"!

What if a hurricane were to slam into the oil slick?

http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/news/s ... -to-sl.asp

May 14, 2010; 11:35 AM ET

Rough seas would dislodge or destroy protective booms, rendering them useless as the storm draws closer.

Next, as the storm rolls through, high winds on the right flank of a hurricane making landfall would cause some oil to become airborne in blowing spray. A storm surge could carry contaminants inland beyond bays, marshes and beaches to well developed locations.

Even a glancing blow from a hurricane passing to the west of the oil slick could be enough for winds and wave action to drive the goo nearby onshore, or to more distant fishing and recreation areas, perhaps in foreign waters.

During the age of sail, winds occasionally blew ships hundreds of miles off course. The wind could have the same effect on the oil slick.

Now, imagine several storms during the season doing the same thing.

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