Metropolitan Evloghios of Milan

[priest_Steven]

You said: My published error. I am not in the business of publishing falsehood, which just drives ecumenists nuts!

Me: Yes, indeed your published error. You published falsehood about my ordination on this site and just apologized for it.
As I said, I accept your apology. I do admit I was unhappy about you publishing such falsehood but your apology has remedied this. Thank you again, Fr Joseph for coming clean.

The list that we will discuss about Milan's search for acceptance into "world orthodoxy" has been published I believe on many lists so I don't think there should be any problem with list rules here.

Looking forward to your comments on that.

• Fr. S

[Hieromonk Ambrose]

As far as I can see, we've had exactly two active clerics leave in a year: Fr Cuthbert (Pierce)..... and Fr Elia.

\When did Igumen Sergei Armstone leave Milan? He is now in the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad and in a parish with Fr Andrew Phillips.

Fr Igumen Sergei Armstone left Milan and was received into the Russian Orthodox Church of Everywhere Outside Russia in February 2009.

[Suaidan]

You said: My published error. I am not in the business of publishing falsehood, which just drives ecumenists nuts!

Me: Yes, indeed your published error. You published falsehood about my ordination on this site and just apologized for it.

I made a mistake. Seriously, you have to get over it.

As I said, I accept your apology. I do admit I was unhappy about you publishing such falsehood but your apology has remedied this. Thank you again, Fr Joseph for coming clean.

That's because, as I said, I can admit a mistake. I wish I could say the same for your falsehoods! Exaggerations! It's so tiresome. It's like this is your job.

The list that we will discuss about Milan's search for acceptance into "world orthodoxy" has been published I believe on many lists so I don't think there should be any problem with list rules here.
Looking forward to your comments on that.

• Fr. S

I am quite sure most of the list knows. You aren't scandalizing a bunch of people on the fence about joining our Church here. Most of the vocal members are happy Traditional Orthodox in their own jurisdictions. All you might do is make them happier or sadder. But, since you want to rehash it here, we can also discuss the ROCOR-MP union at the same time.

[Suaidan]

As far as I can see, we've had exactly two active clerics leave in a year: Fr Cuthbert (Pierce)..... and Fr Elia.

Fr Igumen Sergei Armstone left Milan and was received into the Russian Orthodox Church of Everywhere Outside Russia in February 2009.

I am pretty sure he left our Synod before February of 2009, but I will get official confirmation to prove it, unless you'd like to just admit when he left now. In any case, it's more than a year. As I said for an example, Fr Aidan didn't "leave Milan and join the MP" in 2008. He left us in 2005. He joined the MP in 2008.

I see we are still covering up the concelebrations with Papists we discussed.

[Hieromonk Ambrose]

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And aren't you supposed to be busy with that Facebook petition to get your "daughter in Christ", Vassula Ryden, out of the Alexandrian Patriarchate, so that they and the Monophysites they commune with will have a pure confession of faith?

I play my part in my own way, Father Deacon. The woman is in a state of plani/prelest. I have had her name in my book for about 3 years and I pray for her poor unhappy soul. God deliver her.

You should not scoff at people by writing "daughter in Christ" like you have. God loves her and we must not mock His love. Despite her delusions the grace of the Holy Spirit from the day of her Baptism has not departed from her poor soul and she is a suffering "daughter of God."

[priest_Steven]

You said: You could make that accusation about all the media involved covering Orthodoxy, including your own. We all follow our own respective guidelines when dealing with the subjects of news. This is just basic knowledge. Just as a pro-MP site wouldn't interview True Orthodox Christians for their opinions of being put on a government hit-list, we don't sit here asking who we feel are those acting against the interest of Orthodoxy for their opinion. However, my site is borne out by experience. We have received positive feedback from different jurisdictions of Traditional Orthodoxy, often in competition with each other. That means we are doing something right. By contrast, most of the "world Orthodox" feedback is negative because they will often cover up stories we won't. That also means we are doing something right. We try to operate with fairness and consistency of principle. Let me see if I can separate this out from Orthodoxy altogether. Do you really think Mormon news websites take into account the opinions of the Jehovah's Witnesses when reporting on same? No, because they are not accountable to them. Just as we are not accountable to World Orthodoxy.

Me: Dear Father Joseph the issue here - and it continues to be as far as I am concerned - the fact that you are covering up ecumenism and departures within TOC, especially your own Milan who has a history of it! Now this latest bit of info - and how you are dealing with it (complete with your predictions of future departures) - is also NOT covered. Unless of course you decide to separate from Milan. Then I bet you will get ramped up in high gear!!

I mean why endlessly go on and on about the so-called propaganda of your opponents when you admit to doing the same thing?

Also, don't get so bent out of shape when the ecumenism of your Milan synod is being discussed openly. After all you have a 24-7 site going full court press about your "opponents" and admit to ignoring certain TOC news at the request of certain hierarchs. In a word, don't get your knickers in a twist over a valid story NFTU refuses to cover!

I commend this website for allowing such open and free discussion about "one of their own" TOC when NFTU covers it up!

BRAVO!!

• Fr. S

[Suaidan]

I play my part in my own way, Father Deacon. The woman is in a state of plani/prelest. I have had her name in my book for about 3 years and I pray for her poor unhappy soul. God deliver her.

Spoken like her long-suffering confessor. So you've known all along she was in the Alexandrians, and you covered it up, and claimed she was excommunicated by the state Church of Greece -- even though you knew she wasn't part of there.

Am I getting this right? Is that the depth to which you'll stoop to defend heretical concelebrations in your Church?

And you have the nerve to demand more than "this is a pending investigation" from our Synod? For shame!