THE RUSSIAN IS THE SERB’S FRIEND FOREVER?

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Re: THE RUSSIAN IS THE SERB’S FRIEND FOREVER?

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sava wrote:
Priest Siluan wrote:

Is it so difficult for you fr. Siluan to make clear what you mean?

Dear fr. Siluan I am waiting for your reply..An orthodox cleric has to speak clearly without innuendo..''... Let your statement be, “Yes, yes” or “No, no”..''(Matthew 5:37)

First. Who is you? What is your name, jurisdiction et al? I will not answer to "anonymous".

Dear fr. Siluan I didn't ask you something personal. I asked for clarifications about your own statement (..''Greece or USA, countries with which their own Hierarchy have "links of friendship" with the "secular" Masonic authorities...''). Do you mean the Ecumenistic Hierarchy of Greece and USA or the Hierarchy of the Genuine Orthodox Church? Just a clear answer please.

Also I asked you explaination according to Holy Canons about your ecclesiastical actions (the so called change of juristiction as if The One Holy Church of Christ is a Mall with many shops!).

Our leave was canonical completely, We are sure. It seems you do not know the Pedalion.

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sava wrote:
Priest Siluan wrote:

Is it so difficult for you fr. Siluan to make clear what you mean?

Dear fr. Siluan I am waiting for your reply..An orthodox cleric has to speak clearly without innuendo..''... Let your statement be, “Yes, yes” or “No, no”..''(Matthew 5:37)

First. Who is you? What is your name, jurisdiction et al? I will not answer to "anonymous".

Dear fr. Siluan I didn't ask you something personal. I asked for clarifications about your own statement (..''Greece or USA, countries with which their own Hierarchy have "links of friendship" with the "secular" Masonic authorities...''). Do you mean the Ecumenistic Hierarchy of Greece and USA or the Hierarchy of the Genuine Orthodox Church? Just a clear answer please.

Also I asked you explaination according to Holy Canons about your ecclesiastical actions (the so called change of juristiction as if The One Holy Church of Christ is a Mall with many shops!).

What is this, police interrogation?

Running for the recognition of World Masonic authorities and praising such success. In this light the strange are demands of the GOC of Greece that are placed to Serbs regarding registration of parishes and monasteries.

The saddest thing is that the Greek GOC-Kallinikos believe that they are uniq the Holy Church of Christ and all who are not with them that are outside of the Church. Such ill claims are often hear from the Serbian Kalinikians.

ПРАВОСЛАВЉЕ ИЛИ СМРТ!

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Tryphon wrote:

Vasilije,

Saint john chrysostom writes about schism and that the blood of martyrs will not cleanse one of this sin; now I'm not sure if he spoke it or repeated saint ignatius. You should deffinetly look it up. May GOD grant You wisdom.

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Christ Before Caiaphas, by Matthias Stom.

Господе Исусе Христе, Сине Божији, помилуј ме грешног.

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Priest Siluan wrote:

Our leave was canonical completely, We are sure. It seems you do not know the Pedalion.

Unfortunately, there are two reasons for that:

  1. Uneducated (place for a pride and self-assurance)

  2. Missing some holy canons in the Greek holy books. (i hope for this reason).

Somebody wrote in the early posts, that there is no canon 74. in Greek books, can we receive more information, WHY IS THAT?

Господе Исусе Христе, Сине Божији, помилуј ме грешног.

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Third Rome? Which is the first and second one?

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Rome is the first Rome (duh), Constantinople is the second (that's why we call it New Rome), and Moscow is the third (as declared by the Ecumenical Patriarch in the 16th century), since Moscow was the seat of the Orthodox Christian emperors after the fall of New Rome to the Turks.

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Priest Siluan wrote:
sava wrote:

You write ''...Greece or USA, countries with which their own Hierarchy have "links of friendship" with the "secular" Masonic authorities...''. What do you mean? Who is this Hierarchy?

I think everybody here knows about what I meant.

It is certainly not clear to me, Father, what you are trying to say here. Please clarify.

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