Does anyone here follow Canon 37 of the Council of Laodicea?

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Does anyone here follow Canon 37 of the Council of Laodicea?

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Considering the time of year, I was curious as to whether anyone here attempts to follow Canon 37 of the Council of Laodicea, which St. Nikodemos also refers to also in his commentary on the 45th Apostolic Canon. Here is the text of the canon and interpretation by St. Nikodemos:

Canon 37 of Laodicea: That one must not accept holiday tokens sent by Jews or heretics, nor celebrate any holiday along with them.

Interpretation: According to this Canon an Orthodox Christian ought not to accept gifts that Jews and heretics send them when they have their holidays, nor ought they to celebrate holidays with them at all. See also Ap. cc. XLV and LXX.

Of course, I am wondering about the "accepting of gifts from heretics" part of the canon, and not the issue of celebrating holidays with Jews or heretics. Does anyone here refuse gifts from heretics this time of year?

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I have not encountered this problem recently.

However, I did have a friend before I got married who was Jewish and into all sorts of paganism.
He tried to gift me some books on the deities of the Hindu beliefs and other non-Christian Eastern religions. He did not gift them to me but simply had asked if I would like to have a copy and then read them. He wanted to stimulate conversation in that area as he was seriously looking into Eastern religions. I politely refused saying that I could not accept these pagan books as they went against my own religious beliefs as a Christian. After I got married, I had to stop being his friend as his motives were not pure which became very obvious to both me and my husband.

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Considering the time of year, I was curious as to whether anyone here attempts to follow Canon 37 of the Council of Laodicea, which St. Nikodemos also refers to also in his commentary on the 45th Apostolic Canon. Here is the text of the canon and interpretation by St. Nikodemos:

Canon 27 of Laodicea: That one must not accept holiday tokens sent by Jews or heretics, nor celebrate any holiday along with them.

Interpretation: According to this Canon an Orthodox Christian ought not to accept gifts that Jews and heretics send them when they have their holidays, nor ought they to celebrate holidays with them at all. See also Ap. cc. XLV and LXX.

Of course, I am wondering about the "accepting of gifts from heretics" part of the canon, and not the issue of celebrating holidays with Jews or heretics. Does anyone here refuse gifts from heretics this time of year?

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Re: Does anyone here follow Canon 27 of the Council of Laodicea?

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JHunt777 wrote:

Considering the time of year, I was curious as to whether anyone here attempts to follow Canon 27 of the Council of Laodicea, which St. Nikodemos also refers to also in his commentary on the 45th Apostolic Canon. Here is the text of the canon and interpretation by St. Nikodemos:

Canon 27 of Laodicea: That one must not accept holiday tokens sent by Jews or heretics, nor celebrate any holiday along with them.

Interpretation: According to this Canon an Orthodox Christian ought not to accept gifts that Jews and heretics send them when they have their holidays, nor ought they to celebrate holidays with them at all. See also Ap. cc. XLV and LXX.

Of course, I am wondering about the "accepting of gifts from heretics" part of the canon, and not the issue of celebrating holidays with Jews or heretics. Does anyone here refuse gifts from heretics this time of year?

I know there is a time-limit on being able to edit. The Canon is 37, not 27.

There doesnt seem to be any type of punishment attached to that Canon, as it may just be a warning to help prevent the faithful from falling into the error of the enemy.

We do not accept gifts from other peoples religious festivals nor the feasts days of the heretics.
On a side note: I do raise my children to NOT participate in religious functions of other faiths in school, nor pray with others. They say their own prayers and are encouraged to pray for their teachers and classmates. My children are excused every year from school on Halloween, Holiday parties (celebrated before Christmas break, with ecumenical themes, etc.), but the MOST important part of this is to not judge our neighbor for their celebration in these festivals. We just do our best to follow the faith of our fathers before us.

Whats your take on this Canon Jason?

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Re: Does anyone here follow Canon 27 of the Council of Laodicea?

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Canon 27 of Laodicea: That one must not accept holiday tokens sent by Jews or heretics, nor celebrate any holiday along with them.

Interpretation: According to this Canon an Orthodox Christian ought not to accept gifts that Jews and heretics send them when they have their holidays, nor ought they to celebrate holidays with them at all. See also Ap. cc. XLV and LXX.

Nikodemos directs us to two other canons: the 45th and 70th canons of the Apostles. These canons seem to give a little more sense to what is being prohibited.

45th Canon: Let a bishop, or presbyter, or deacon who has only prayed with heretics be excommunicated, but if he has permitted them to perform any clerical office, let him be deposed.

70th Canon: 70. If any bishop, or presbyter, or deacon, or any one of the list of clergy keeps fast or festival with the Jews, or receives from them any of the gifts of their feasts, as unleavened bread or any such things, let him be deposed. If he be a layman, let him be excommunicated.

The 70th canon seems to be particularly enlightening on this subject. Obviously there were particular gifts given by Jews during their holidays that had a sacramental significance for them. In the interpretation of this canon, it says that this is very serious even if the person receiving such gifts does not sympathize whatsoever with the beliefs of the Jews or heretics (in which case they would be subject to anathema). This is because "they afford an occasion for scandal and give rise to a suspicion that they are actually honoring the ceremonies of the Jews, a thing which is alien to Orthodoxy."

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Re: Does anyone here follow Canon 27 of the Council of Laodicea?

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Thanks.

Would this canon would also apply to gifts of food offered to deities in Eastern religions.
There are pagan festivals where food is offered to idols and then shared with friends.

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Re: Does anyone here follow Canon 27 of the Council of Laodicea?

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I suspect what Jason is getting at is the custom of exchanging gifts on Western Christmas, which could implicate those of us who are converts and who have non-Orthodox relatives who observe Western Christmas. Am I right?

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Re: Does anyone here follow Canon 27 of the Council of Laodicea?

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Thank you all for your responses. Timothy, thank you for correcting the numbering of the canon. I copied and pasted the text from another document and failed to notice that what read "Canon 27" from the Council of Laodicea came after canon 36 and before canon 38. Obviously, this canon should have been numbered "37" but I unfortunately cannot figure out how to edit the original title or post in this thread. If Jonathan or someone else knows how to fix this, then please do so.

Jonathan is correct as to the reason for my post. In his interpretation of Canon 37 of Laodicea, St. Nikodemos simply states that "According to this Canon an Orthodox Christian ought not to accept gifts that Jews and heretics send them when they have their holidays". I was interested in what others here may understand or believe concerning this canon, and whether any here understand and apply this canon to mean that an Orthodox Christian should not accept Christmas gifts from Roman Catholic and Protestant family and friends, since such gifts would be sent “when they have their holidays.”

As Ephrem indicated, this canon seems to refer to the reception from Jews or heretics of offerings, tokens (as the translation read which I included), portions (as some other translations read), or anything else that is connected to, or leftover from, the ceremonies and rituals performed. I do not think receiving presents from heretics given on the occasion of their celebration of Christmas applies if such gifts were not involved in their ritual or liturgical celebrations, but I was curious what others here thought.

Canon 39 of Laodicea similarly states “That one must not join the heathen in celebration of holidays and festivals, and share in their Godlessness.” The 12th century canonist Aristenus comments on this canon by saying, “Light hath no communion with darkness. Therefore no Christian should celebrate a feast with heretics or Jews, neither should he receive anything connected with these feasts such as azymes and the like.” Again, I take this to mean that one should not receive anything used in, or remaining from, services, ceremonies, and rituals performed by heretics, unbelievers, etc., and this would usually not pertain to gifts sent to you on the occasion of a Feast which the Orthodox celebrate and honor, such as the Feast of Nativity. However, if one were to be given a present by a Lutheran on “Reformation Sunday” (and they do have such a day, believe it or not), or on the Feast of Francis of Assisi, then of course there would be no reason why an Orthodox Christian would or should receive such a present.

Aside from the subject of receiving gifts, however, there is the more general principle of “join[ing] the heathen in celebration of holidays and festivals, and shar[ing] in their Godlessness” which is prohibited by canon 39 of Laodicea (among others). Timothy indicated how he attempts follow this by keeping children out of school for Halloween celebrations (which we also do), and of course not permitting them to sing holiday songs or participate in other holiday activities that may be based on non-Christian religions and heretical beliefs (which I also agree with). I’m wondering what others do, or think should be done, with respect to these canonical principles on the one hand, and the fact that even Christian-themed songs and activities which may be done in schools today (though perhaps such themes are being erradicated in favor of purely secular and more politically correct themes) are from Protestant and Roman Catholic (i.e. heretical) inspiration and influence, and whether anyone who has children attempts to keep their children from all involvement with non-Orthodox inspired songs and celebrations which may be Christian but not Orthodox. Of course, comments from those without children on what one thinks should be done are certainly welcome also.

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