"Saint" Matrona of Moscow

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WOW ! Thank you SO MUCH for enlightening us all about what the REAL STORY IS !

I feel so much better to know the TRUTH about this.

Now was she supposed to be blind, though ? Is that the same Matrona ?

Now it makes sense about the tales of the visits.
Why would S. leave the Kremlin and go out in public, anyway, on a private "mission" to "an Eldress".
He was not considered even to have been superstitious, seeking approval from some Elder-type, for fear of "bad luck".

So you are so right. It does NOT make a particle of sense.

I am glad to know that even the MP personnel speak out against this bizarre MYTH.
Maybe the same quarters who propose the glorification [perish the thought] of Mr. Joe
are the same who promote this obvious fairy tale ?

Getting to the truth is really a great thing.

Thank you again, M. Evfrosiniya, for the clear explication.

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Just a story (of own) to understand our times...

In June 2011, I was a day in Moscow together three young men from our Parish in Dmitrov, who invited me to Moscow that day to visit various interesting places as the Andrey Rublev Museum in the Andronikov Monastery, the Donskoy Monastery etc... casually, also we visited the Pokrovsky Women Monastery, where are the "Saint" Matrona "relics"... there was full (unbearably full) with people trying to venerate the Matron's "relics"... So, We fled from there quickly to the Donskoy Monastery to venerate the Holy Patriarch Tikhon Relics... well, there was none, except us, trying to venerate his relics... So things are in these times of universal apostasy!

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Priest Siluan wrote:

Just a story (of own) to understand our times...

In June 2011, I was a day in Moscow together three young men from our Parish in Dmitrov, who invited me to Moscow that day to visit various interesting places as the Andrey Rublev Museum in the Andronikov Monastery, the Donskoy Monastery etc... casually, also we visited the Pokrovsky Women Monastery, where are the "Saint" Matrona "relics"... there was full (unbearably full) with people trying to venerate the Matron's "relics"... So, We fled from there quickly to the Donskoy Monastery to venerate the Holy Patriarch Tikhon Relics... well, there was none, except us, trying to venerate his relics... So things are in these times of universal apostasy!

Wow! What a sad commentary on how low the sensibilities of the people have fallen! It is worse than one can believe.

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Yes, Fr. Siluan's description is very accurate. I know people who have stood in line for hours to venerate "St. Matrona's" relics, and I used to stay with friends that live very close to the Donskoi Monastery, where the Holy Patriarch Tikhon's relics are. There was never more than a handful of people present, even on the rare occasions when the reliquary would be opened up, and one could venerate the relics directly.

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Dearest in Christ, Matushka Evfrosinia!

It is a greatest blessing to read you here again! God may bless and help you in everything is needed for your salvation!

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Thank you, Father!

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It's really a great opportunity to have Mother Evfrosinia post here. She is SO knowledgeable !!
And you, too, Fr Siluan - I noticed you were gone for awhile. I was worried. Glad to see you back safe and sound.

Myself, too, I was probably the only venerator of St Tikhon's relics, though there WAS a flow of pilgrims into the Donskoy.

I was fortunate to get approval from the Archimandrite to take photos - they opened up the top. Then asked WHICH Church I was from.
The looks I got, though, when a hieromonk asked from which jurisdiction I was - !

Then they asked if I wanted to see Fr Alexander Kiselev, who was then living there. I said OK, because they made it sound like
he was a great celebrity.

So I want to ask as a side note here - or elsewhere - WHY he "defected" to the MP ?
I never got a satisfactory answer in later years, wondering. I did not ask him, as the conversation was general.
He was quite pleasant. But I always wondered WHY he was so active in Rocor, and then went to Moscow ?

Anyone know ?

Back to Fake-St Matrona - perhaps she wasn't even known when I was there in the 90s. Or at least not widely known, or I would have heard of her then, npt
much later.
Which Pokrovsky Conventwould that be where this apparent imposter rests ? I am trying to think where that would be.
A Pokrovsky Convent doesn't immediately spring to mind.

It IS telling, indeed, how people flock to False Teachers/ Eldresses etc but ignore the REAL ones. The level of discernment is not high,
especially when many of these people were only newly baptized and not fully instructed. The priests and monks there seem to have been
learning, themselves !

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