Fr. Josiah (Trenham) on church history fever dreams

[eish]

I don't have words. Have a meme instead.

[Barbara]

Could you explain that a little better ? I didn't catch what you meant.
Is it Fr Josiah Trenham who is off in his description ? Thanks !

[eish]

Fr. Josiah quite correctly points out the two types of delusion which Protestants hold to be Church history.

Fr. Josiah is himself in the Antiochian church in the USA, which means that his own Church history falls squarely in the second category which he describes. He thinks the Fathers taught what his church teaches, which he thinks is Orthodoxy.

[Cyprian]

The painting Fr. Josiah uses in his video is a baroque painting by Gerbrand van den Eeckhout, Vision of Cornelius the Centurion (1664)

Is this supposed to pass for a handsome male angel?

Saint Ignatius (Bryanchaninov)
Reflections on church painting

святитель Игнатий (Брянчанинов)
Размышления о живописи церковной
https://azbyka.ru/otechnik/Ignatij_Brja ... serkovnoj/

The four upper angels are female figures. This violates the tradition of the Orthodox Church, which always depicts Angels as beautiful young men. There is no example in all of Holy Scripture that an angel appears in the form of a woman.

Четыре верхние Ангела суть фигуры женские. Этим нарушено предание Православной Церкви, которая всегда изображает Ангелов прекрасными юношами. Нет примера во всем Священном Писании, чтоб Ангел явился в образе женщины.

Fr. Seraphim (Rose) (+1982)
The Soul After Death
Chapter Two

The Orthodox Doctrine of Angels

"Throughout Christian history; the manifestations of angels have always been in this same form of dazzling youths arrayed in white. The iconographic tradition of the appearance of angels has also been consistent throughout the centuries, depicting just such dazzling youths (often with wings, which of course are a symbolic feature not usually seen in angelic apparitions); and the Seventh Ecumenical Council in 787 decreed that angels should always be portrayed only in this way, as men. The “cupids” of the Western art of the Renaissance and later periods are pagan in inspiration and have nothing to do with true angels."