Actually that quote is neither from Caesar nor Shakespeare: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/caesar.htm
The cards I do not see as too much of a problem, but understand people's weariness. I would never take injected or implanted microchips however!
High Tech Passports
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OrthodoxyOrDeath
Wow, thank you Nicholas. Let me revise the qoute...
"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervour, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." -- Barbra Streisand, Democratic party fund-raiser, October 2002
Creeping Acceptance
Deacon Nikolai wrote:The cards I do not see as too much of a problem...I would never take injected or implanted microchips however!
The implants I do not see as too much of a problem...
http://g.msn.com/0US!s5.31472_315529/23 ... cm=BBRight
The informational use of the implants I do not see as too much of a problem...
... but I would never use it to buy and sell
http://www.rfida.com/nb/requirement.htm
- too too soon
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From Electronic Pork:
"What should we do?", you ask. Accept neither the cards nor the individual ID numbers. Rally around your Orthodox pastors and try to the utmost of your abilities to convince those nearest to you. The more active we'll be the greater results we'll achieve. In the Ukraine believers sent letters of refusal to their president, as follows:
Declaration
I, Orthodox Christian [surname, name, patronymic] refuse to accept any ID number assigned to me without my agreement, any electronic passport or any identification code on the forehead or the right hand, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
Date Signature
You can choose any form of action you want; the main thing is to reject the mark sooner, while it's still on a piece of plastic, than later, when satan's minions start to place their mark on God's own creation, the human being. Satan can't tolerate the fact that each person is, by God's great wisdom, unique and irreplaceable. He wishes to make us unique in his way, by assigning us ID numbers on the forehead or the right hand.
We who call ourselves "slaves of God" acquire freedom; those who call themselves "free" acquire eternal slavery. God will help those who are unwilling to put on this new yoke, which for the time being is in the form of piece of plastic. We put our trust only in Him. And I daresay that he who acts without delay can count on God's help without delay, too.
"Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh." (Matthew 24:32.)
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joasia
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The fact that it's already been done, shows that the plan has been put into motion. Prisoners have been implanted, in order to test the device.
And as everyone knows about the law of kenesis, the full motion, put into action, has to follow it's full course...unless stopped against its direction, by a stronger force.
In other words, nobody can stop this plan...except by another. And who will that stronger force be to kill this plan, when the government is 100% behind this plan?
We may say... we will never allow this thing put in us, but what will we say when we are put in that perverbial corner of no escape?
We will say no...hence, the consequence of our response. And the consequence of our children's lives. We will be considered opposed to the law of our government which will make us political criminals. The enemy of the state.
We will have no voice and no rights. The constitution will not be our comfort. The constitution can be augmented by, who else...the government officials.
And what lawyer would want to defend us? If he was one of us...he would also be labelled as a dissedent. So, how can we beat this?
We can't. We've allowed the power that be of this world to make the rules. We have no power to fight it, except our faith and where we will go. But, here...it has been determined.
Our faith in Christ, is our only necessary salvation. Let these powers of the world face their own kenetic consequences.
After all, this world is only temporary. We are just visitors, working out our salvations. The ultimate goal is clear. We will sit with Christ in God's Holy Kingdom.
In Christ,
Joasia
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Justin Kissel
I'm suprised by some of the literalness in interpretations here when it comes to certain prophecies. I would say that "marks" and "buying and selling" seems to refer to religious and spiritual things, not how you pay for your Kit Kat bar. Provided that they are relatively safe to use (e.g., guarded against ID theft), I very much look forward to the day that such chips come into widespread use; I think they will be amazingly helpful.
I am not so sure, Justin. There does seem to be a very strong and continous attempt to manipulate public fears and public opinion, with spectacular success in some areas, particularly the war on terror. It appears to have fundamentally undermined much of the precious freedoms so hard fought for by your founding fathers; for example.
In one of the links given on this thread, reference is made to shooting rampages in the UK. The outcry lead to the compulsory handing in of all licensed handguns. Handguns like other firearms and some air weapons have only been available under very restricted licensing laws for decades anyway. Now the people in Britain who have handguns are the criminals and even more restrictions on law abiding citizens have been introduced.
Non-acceptance of a range of ID requirements will simply lead to gradual exclusion from economic activity. Crop seeds types are owned and will not self seed, making farmers and small holders dependent on seed merchants. All this in the name of progress, don't you know.
God ridiculed and rejected, religion attacked, the family and marriage undermined, fathers role subject to a rentless onslaught, childrens' sexuality a plaything of social engineers and commerce, language itself debased. History re-written or forgotten. In the EU a move towards a Europe of the regions rather a collection of Nations working together. This latter nowhere more brazen in its workings than good old Tony Blair's Britain.
No, Justin, I am not so sure.