New Bishop for the Kyrikite-Romano-Kenyan Synod

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why does it matter?"

It DOESN'T matter at A L L! You are free to ordain anyone you want, even if he is from Kenya, Egypt, Pakistan, Korea, Japan etc !

I've already mentioned : just for the record!!!

my God..

[Anastasios]

Kallinkos/LMP, do the florinites have a concecration certificate for Akakios?

While I can see you are on the defensive, and trying to point out that it makes no sense to judge the Romanians when Akakios was ordained in secret, I doubt that they would not have given Akakios an ordination certificate, because they gave Petros one and he was ordained in the same circumstances (and I have a copy of that certificate which I got from ROCOR's archives).

Akakios was reposed when they entered communion with us and gave out certificates but everyone knows Leonty went to Greece, met Akakakios there, and made the other bishops with him. There is no doubt that ROCOR recognized those consecrations from 1969 on and was in full communion with us. So while the original secret consecrations were canonically flawed, that was fixed when ROCOR issued the certificates and entered communion with us.

Of course you do not recognize ROCOR but that is another debate for another day my friend

Deacon Anastasios

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but everyone knows Leonty went to Greece, met Akakakios there, and made the other bishops with him.
Deacon Anastasios

What is more fr., is that Arch. Chrysostomos described us one day the great danger that Leonty put in his life, so as to come to Greece (May 1962) and ordain 5 bishops (Auxentios, Akakios, Gerontios, Parthenios and Chrysostomos Naslimis) . He had to hide from the police and the state church with the fear of exil(ation) from Greece. Once he had been hiding in a monastery's stable under a pile of coal for two days without water and food while the police was scrutinizing the whole monastery.

Besides why a bishop from South America had to make susch a long and dangerous journey if he had known that it was worthless and there was no validity to his actions - consecrations????

Met. Philaret had recognised these ordinations and we entered in full communion with the ROCOR
Here is their SYNODICAL DOCUMENT

[Jean-Serge]

What is more fr., is that Arch. Chrysostomos described us one day the great danger that Leonty put in his life, so as to come to Greece (May 1962) and ordain 5 bishops (Auxentios, Akakios, Gerontios, Parthenios and Chrysostomos Naslimis) . He had to hide from the police and the state church with the fear of exil(ation) from Greece. Once he had been hiding in a monastery's stable under a pile of coal for two days without water and food while the police was scrutinizing the whole monastery.

Well, being exiled from a country is not a big danger for one's life... I did not know the Greek police was so slow that it needed two days to scrutinize a monastery! But who was the co-consecrators with Leonty of Chili this time?

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being exiled from a country is not a big danger for one's life

Yes but it was a big danger for the Church and for the reasons he came to Greece to be arrested and send back to America!...

I did not know the Greek police was so slow that it needed two days to scrutinize a monastery!

The police had the information from the state church that the old-calendarists are going to have consecrations due to the arrival of a "canonic russian bishop" and this was their BIGGEST nightmare so they scrutinized every single OC monastery of Attica more than once! Imagine that. So much danger for people that he hadn't even met in the past.

But who was the co-consecrators with Leonty of Chili this time?

You lack in history dear brother in Christ.. Akakios Papas had already being ordained by Seraphim of Chicago and Theofilos Ioneskou* in Detroit (22/12/60). He succeded to travel to USA with his nephew Akakios (now bisop of Diaulia) alleging he was going for a special surgery (with expenses of St. Eirinis' Chrysovalantos monastery). None old-calendarist priest was allowed at that time by the state to travel abroad for the above reasons.

Leonty he wouldn't do it if he didn't believe that Akakios was one of his co-bishops with valid consecrations. It would be more easy for Akakios to concetrate bishops single-handed (as others did...) but they didn't prefer the easy way.

And last but NO LEAST, we must NOT forget that this whole undertaking was set up and organised diligently by the then hieromonk and now Archbishop Chrysostomos Kiousis. He was the one who had sent a pile of letters asking from the ROCOR to help the Greeks restorate the hierachy**. He traveled many days by train and met with St. John Maximovitch who advised him to address his request to bishop Leonty.

You can find some of this history in his brief BIOGRAPHY /b
But nothing can compare to listen to him narrating this story vibrantly, despite his age. And he prefers doing it when he has young audience .


*Ionesku wasn't a new calendarist as many matthaiwites claim. The story closer to the truth is that he had some new calendaristic parishes in his diocese for economy reasons.

** Since Met.Chrysostomos Kabourides died, Met. Germanos Varikopoulos died in prison, and Bishop Mathaios was in schism and had performed invalid (single handed) consecrations according to them.

[petros_p]

and Bishop Mathaios was in schism and had performed invalid (single handed) consecrations according to them.

XPICTOC ANECTH
Dear Kallinikos
The single handed consecration by the blessed Bishop Matthew is fully justifiable and hence canonical. I would worry if I were you about the canonicity and orthodoxy of the bishops that concentrated Akakios your first hierarch that created your church, bishop Theophil
http://www.egoch.org/Akakians/Theophil_Ionescu.pdf
and Leonty the second
http://www.egoch.org/Akakians/Leonty_at ... uneral.jpg

Both of them were full pledged ecumenists not just new calendarists!!! So please get real!!!

Christ is Risen
Petros

[Constantine]

Also Akakios and company, knew full well that rocor had spiritual contact with the NC EP and the NC Archbishop of North and South America, and that rocor considered the NC only a mistake and still had spiritual contact with churches using the NC, but Akakios decided to ignore all that even though he "believed" there was no grace in the NC.