Should lenin's body be Buried?

[Kollyvas]

http://english.mn.ru/english/issue.php?2005-41-12

Should Lenin's Body Be Buried?

A majority of Russians polled by the Levada Center believe that the body of Vladimir Lenin, the leader of the proletarian revolution and first head of the Soviet state, should be removed from the mausoleum. Thirty-six percent of respondents say Lenin could be buried at the Volkov Cemetery in St. Petersburg; 15 percent believe he should be buried at the Kremlin wall. The idea is opposed by 40 percent of Russians. The poll of 1,600 randomly selected Russians was conducted in 46 regions on October 14 through 17.
Respondents also divided on the future of the grave sites at the Kremlin wall. More than one-half opposed the idea of removing the graves from Red Square, while one-third supported the idea. The majority of respondents agreed that the mausoleum should stay where it is.

The granite mausoleum was erected in 1929 through 1930, while the first and temporary sepulcher built in 1924 was wooden.

What do you think should be done with Lenin's body? (figures in percentages)

Answers 1997 2000 2005

Keep at the mausoleum

38 44 40

Bury at the Volkov Cemetery

37 34 36

Bury at the Kremlin Wall

13 16 15

Don't know (not sure) 12 6 9

What should be done with the mausoleum if Lenin's body is buried?

Answers 1997 2000 2005

Leave it on Red Aquare 74 82 80

Move it to another place 9 6 6

Pull it down

9 6 6

Don't know (not sure) 8 6 8

What do you think about the idea of removing the graves of Soviet leaders from Red Square and reburying them at a cemetery?

For 32

Against 51

Don't know (not sure)

17

[Kollyvas]

The point of the filthy mummy was to displace Orthodox Saints with "heroes of communism"--this scum is an affront to everything holy. I personally don't care what they do with his corpse, but i would like that mausoleum dedicated precisely to a museum of "The bolshevik POGROM"...
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[Kollyvas]

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/11/12/ ... tion.shtml

Russian Communists Campaign Against Lenin Reburial
Created: 12.11.2005 15:54 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 15:54 MSK

MosNews

Russia’s Communist Party on Saturday began gathering signatures for a petition demanding Lenin’s body be left in a mausoleum in Moscow’s Red Square, and not removed for burial as some have demanded.

“This will be an indefinite protest action and will continue for as long as talks about reburial continue,” the head of the Communist Party’s governing body, Vladimir Kashin, told the Itar-Tass news agency.

The debate over what to do with the remains of the Bolshevik leader, interred for public display there in 1924, the year of his death, has raged since the collapse of the Soviet Union, the AFP reported.

In recent months, public figures such as Saint Petersburg Governor Valentina Matvienko have pushed for Lenin to be moved, noting that Russia “is not Egypt” and thus not the place for mummified bodies...

[Kollyvas]

http://directionstoorthodoxy.org/mod/ne ... le_id=6238

Posted on Tue Nov 15 2005:

"Lenin should be buried, because the idea of mummification is outside any cultural and religious context in Russia," Interfax quoted Metropolitan Kirill (shown L). Russian Orthodox church favours burying Lenin
MOSCOW (AP) - A top Russian Orthodox official said Tuesday that the country's dominant church believes the body of Bolshevik Revolution leader Vladimir Lenin should be removed from display in a Red Square mausoleum and buried, the Interfax news agency reported.

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MOSCOW (AP) - A top Russian Orthodox official said Tuesday that the country's dominant church believes the body of Bolshevik Revolution leader Vladimir Lenin should be removed from display in a Red Square mausoleum and buried, the Interfax news agency reported.

"Lenin should be buried, because the idea of mummification is outside any cultural and religious context in Russia," Interfax quoted Metropolitan Kirill, who heads the Russian Orthodox Church's external relations department, as saying.

The comment came amid debate over whether to bury Lenin's body, which has been on display in a stone mausoleum just outside the Kremlin since 1924. Kirill called the public display of the body "an artificial phenomenon with some sort of very strange mysticism," Interfax reported.

In what appeared to be a Kremlin attempt to gauge public reaction to the divisive issue, a regional envoy of President Vladimir Putin said in September that Lenin's body should be taken from its Red Square mausoleum and buried in a cemetery along with the remains of other Bolshevik dignitaries.

Several senior lawmakers in the Kremlin-controlled parliament followed up on his call, proposing burial. Communist Party chief Gennady Zyuganov warned that his party would stage a massive civil disobedience action if authorities tried to remove the body, and the Communists launched a petition drive this month soliciting signatures against such a move.

The Interfax report did not say whether Kirill had indicated whether Lenin's body should be buried soon or whether he was speaking more generally, and Kirill could not immediately be reached for comment. Earlier this month, Kirill suggested that a national referendum might be the right way to decide the fate of Lenin's body.

He said then that the issue was politically charged and cautioned that care should be taken not to inflame passions.

The Russian Orthodox Church was harshly persecuted under officially atheist Communist rule, after the 1917 revolution, but it has experienced a strong resurgence since the Soviet collapse of 1991.

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[AndyHolland]

Abraham Lincoln said, "with malice toward none, with charity for all" after the American Civil War.

When Abraham Lincoln died, he was displayed throughout the US in public mourning after his assasination. He was embalmed heavily as a result. He was of course buried - in a sealed mausoleum with enclosed coffin.

Many years later thieves came to steal his body. They were unsuccessful. Given the incident, it was decided to place his body in a deep grave with concrete on top.

Prior to this reburial, his coffin was opened and his body was incorrupt as well as his clothing. The American flag on the body had completely disintegrated with only the blue flecks representing heaven remaining.

A wonderful fragrance filled the air (supposed to have been the perfume from the embalming by the non-believers). Before his death, he told his wife he wanted to go to the Holy land to see where Jesus had lived. Perhaps he was not Orthodox, there were no Orthodox Churches around that spoke English in his day in the States, but he evidently found God, or rather God found him.

andy - the pious twaddler

Lincoln's Declaration of a national fast:
http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative ... s/fast.htm
"...those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord."