marriage in the church

[TomS]

Perhaps everyone else already understood this and it is only Tom who did not, in which case then I will be silent. I will gladly try to answer anyone else who still does not understand.

But one of my points was that this is not the practice of the GOA. So to say "the Orthodox Church" really just includes YOUR Orthodox Church.

Or do you consider your flavor of Orthodoxy the ONLY TRUE Orthodox Church?

[Terry]

If I am baptized in the orthodox church am i eligible for holy communion?

If my husband and i have an orthodox ceramonie, even though he is not a church goer, what does this mean for me? I dont want any disadvantages just because he isnt religious (sniff sniff)

Also if i am baptized, will God forgive me of this fornication? of course i will have a orthodox ceramonie right after.

Also, do i have to be baptized before the orthodox ceramonie? I have been baptized ,but not in an orthodox church.

I'm really sorry, im confused about a lot of things, I want to make everything right, it will take some time, but it will get done, and i dont want any disadvantages in the church just because my husband isn't religious.

Terry

p.s, thank you Fr for answering to my post.

[GOCPriestMark]

Dear Terry,

Until you are member of the Orthodox Church her rules have no bearing on you. If you were baptized today you would be living in an unblessed marriage. So your situation needs to change.

I am trying to give you the right answers, but how it gets worked out is between you and the Orthodox priest who baptizes you.

The Orthodox Church confesses one baptism, that baptism which unites a person to the one Orthodox Church.

Pray for a change, a softening of your husband's heart towards holy things and ask God to make all things right.

[pjhatala]

If I am baptized in the orthodox church am i eligible for holy communion?


Also if i am baptized, will God forgive me of this fornication? of course i will have a orthodox ceramonie right after.

Also, do i have to be baptized before the orthodox ceramonie? I have been baptized ,but not in an orthodox church.

I'm really sorry, im confused about a lot of things, I want to make everything right, it will take some time, but it will get done, and i dont want any disadvantages in the church just because my husband isn't religious.

Terry

p.s, thank you Fr for answering to my post.

Terry,
GOCPriestMark is part of an Orthodox jurisdiction which maintains something of a "hard line". GOCPriestMark's group is not in communion with the majority of the world's Orthodox faithful and the jurisdictions to which they belong. Asking a normal, "world orthodox" (see link: http://oca.org/OCworldindex.asp?SID=2) or ROCOR priest would get you different answers. If you are received into a non "old calendarist" Orthodox Church(either through baptism and chrismation or just chrismation, depending on the regulations of the jurisdiction you join) you will be able to received communion regardless of whether your husband converts. You would be Orthodox! Why wouldn't you be able to? To get a less "strict" and generally more accepted answer to your questions, I recommend submitting your questions either to your local priest or to Fr. John Matusiak on the Orthodox Church in America's homepage at: http://oca.org/QAIndex.asp?SID=3 , and not just restrict yourself to hearing answers from whomever might decide to respond here.

Hope that helps some

[GOCPriestMark]

Terry,
GOCPriestMark is part of an Orthodox jurisdiction which maintains something of a "hard line". GOCPriestMark's group is not in communion with the majority of the world's Orthodox faithful and the jurisdictions to which they belong. Asking a normal, "world orthodox" (see link: http://oca.org/OCworldindex.asp?SID=2) or ROCOR priest would get you different answers. If you are received into a non "old calendarist" Orthodox Church(either through baptism and chrismation or just chrismation, depending on the regulations of the jurisdiction you join) you will be able to received communion regardless of whether your husband converts. You would be Orthodox! Why wouldn't you be able to? To get a less "strict" and generally more accepted answer to your questions, I recommend submitting your questions either to your local priest or to Fr. John Matusiak on the Orthodox Church in America's homepage at: http://oca.org/QAIndex.asp?SID=3 , and not just restrict yourself to hearing answers from whomever might decide to respond here.

Hope that helps some

pjhatala, Aren't you saying that ROCOR and new calendarists accept a "Justice of the Peace" as Orthodox? In this case it would seem that "less strict" =s less orthodox. Do all these worldly orthodox you mention communion people who practice marital relations without being married (aka fornication)?

If one comes to a traditional orthodox forum one should expect traditional orthodox answers.

[Anastasios]

There is a canon from the council of trullo which allows a spouse to convert without the other and be baptized. However, in modern times, it is not allowed in most cases in the Greek Church because of the spiritual havoc that can be wrought in such cases. If, after many years, your spouse never converts, it is possible for the bishop to bless you to enter and still have relations with your spouse, but this is very, very rare. In my case, it was a blessing that the bishop did not allow me to convert without my wife because she came around after several years.

Anastasios

[pjhatala]

Terry,
GOCPriestMark is part of an Orthodox jurisdiction which maintains something of a "hard line". GOCPriestMark's group is not in communion with the majority of the world's Orthodox faithful and the jurisdictions to which they belong. Asking a normal, "world orthodox" (see link: http://oca.org/OCworldindex.asp?SID=2) or ROCOR priest would get you different answers. If you are received into a non "old calendarist" Orthodox Church(either through baptism and chrismation or just chrismation, depending on the regulations of the jurisdiction you join) you will be able to received communion regardless of whether your husband converts. You would be Orthodox! Why wouldn't you be able to? To get a less "strict" and generally more accepted answer to your questions, I recommend submitting your questions either to your local priest or to Fr. John Matusiak on the Orthodox Church in America's homepage at: http://oca.org/QAIndex.asp?SID=3 , and not just restrict yourself to hearing answers from whomever might decide to respond here.

Hope that helps some

pjhatala, Aren't you saying that ROCOR and new calendarists accept a "Justice of the Peace" as Orthodox? In this case it would seem that "less strict" =s less orthodox. Do all these worldly orthodox you mention communion people who practice marital relations without being married (aka fornication)?

If one comes to a traditional orthodox forum one should expect traditional orthodox answers.

What I'm saying is, many Orthodox Christians have non-Orthodox spouses and were married in non-Orthodox Churches, yet are not at all considered "fornicators" when they approach for communion.